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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by yellow_lead on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:41PM (#22088534)
I'll bite. Aside from Tesla owners, I do not know anyone in my life today whose vehicle connects to the Internet. Of course, I mean to say I don't see how your comparison to present day is accurate.
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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by NullPrefix on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:48PM (#22088558)
>Aside from Tesla owners, I do not know anyone in my life today whose vehicle connects to the Internet

When did the whole OnStar botnet start? I think it's earlier than 2010.

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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by yellow_lead on Saturday January 18, 2020 @08:13PM (#22088647)
I wasn't aware of that. I suppose that would count as the car, but doesn't most car hacking occur when the component has access to i.e the CAM bus?
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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by Vendan on Saturday January 18, 2020 @10:24PM (#22089215)
Why do you think OnStar doesn't have access to the can bus https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10008228
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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by paulmd on Saturday January 18, 2020 @10:14PM (#22089154)
pretty much all cars with modern head units connect to the internet for things like traffic data and software updates.

as of 2017 it is no longer legal to sell a car with no backup camera, and 99.9% of cars implement that with a digitized head unit that, wait for it, connects to the internet.

thus, very new-manufacture cars in 2020 do not connect to the internet, bluetooth, sometimes wifi, etc.

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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by shagie on Saturday January 18, 2020 @09:00PM (#22088843)
There was the Jeep a few years ago... https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-hig...
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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by jupp0r on Saturday January 18, 2020 @09:17PM (#22088912)
My 2017 Ford connects to wifi.
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