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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by Reason077 on Saturday January 18, 2020 @04:36PM (#22087433)
Those who think FSD can be solved by building special road infrastructure for self driving cars misunderstand the problem.

Cars are already equipped with suites of sensors giving them far more complete information than any human can process. Cars can already react faster and hold lanes with more precision than humans can.

What’s lacking is general intelligence. The ability to creatively respond to unexpected situations, even when it’s something you’ve never seen before.

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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by spookthesunset on Saturday January 18, 2020 @05:08PM (#22087631)
And those unexpected situations are not edge cases either. Virtually every time you drive you’ll encounter a novel case that has never been seen before. Your human brain is good at improvising. Computers? Not so much...
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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by scarejunba on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:22PM (#22088442)
My average drive distance is under 10 miles. The expected number of miles for Waymo to disengage once is over 3 orders of magnitude higher. I'd have to take 1000 trips before Waymo would have disengaged.

That does not jive with your numbers (1 disengage per trip, roughly 10 miles), unless you're saying that Waymo's numbers are juiced by few city miles?

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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by spookthesunset on Saturday January 18, 2020 @09:25PM (#22088944)
Last I checked waymo drives a very prescriptive route and doesn’t go over like 35mph or something. It’s also not running at scale, meaning a non trivial amount of them on the road.

Call me back when waymo can drive in all seasons in random places anywhere in the US.

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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by scarejunba on Saturday January 18, 2020 @10:38PM (#22089275)
Sure sure, maybe we have FSD only in like SoCal+TX+AZ+AL+FL. That, on its own, is a game changer.

Doesn't have to solve all problems, only sufficiently large problems.

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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by GeorgeTirebiter on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:51PM (#22088570)
Gentle correction: 'jive' -> 'jibe'
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Re:Volkswagen exec admits full self-driving cars 'may never ... by scarejunba on Saturday January 18, 2020 @10:37PM (#22089271)
Oooh, thanks for that!
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