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Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by perl4ever on Saturday January 18, 2020 @01:41PM (#22086138)
According to Purdue, the first computer science department in the US was established there in 1962, so of course in 1960 IBM wasn't that selective - they couldn't hire CS graduates. Maybe math majors.

Also, I don't know when CS degrees became common among programmers, but it didn't happen right after they were invented, I'm sure.

Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by thaumasiotes on Saturday January 18, 2020 @01:50PM (#22086212)
Did anything in the material I quoted, or in the remainder of either article, refer to CS degrees or CS graduates?
Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by perl4ever on Saturday January 18, 2020 @06:40PM (#22088201)
It's an example of conventional attributes which didn't exist then because the whole field was unformed. It seems like that would inhibit specialized aptitude tests - if you're hiring math or whatever majors back then (not that it doesn't happen today) you can't ask them about linked lists or sorting algorithms.

Not to mention, a vast number of people who could be good programmers wouldn't have had access to a computer before a first programming job, even if they had a college degree. Today it's much safer to assume that if someone is any good, they will have been exposed.

Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by thaumasiotes on Saturday January 18, 2020 @06:43PM (#22088214)
But nobody's talking about interviews that ask for conventionalized CS material. The point is that the interview questions are more difficult. They aren't especially more computer-focused.
Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by perl4ever on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:09PM (#22088366)
I wasn't asked more difficult questions in 2007, when I got my first programming job. Several years on, we had some discussions about what kind of questions to ask candidates. One place I applied to more recently had a flowchart reading test that must have been from the punched card era.

So I don't concede the point, anyway.

But, the examples above definitely do compare more and less computer focused things.