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Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by tyfon on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:33AM (#22084070)
Why are they even bothering with the MAX?

Do they really think that people will willingly board a MAX plane again when travelling? I'm certainly not going to do that.

Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by svara on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:44AM (#22084132)
What fraction of airline customers even try to find out what airplane model their flight will be on? My intuition is it's irrelevantly low...
Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by mechhacker on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:36AM (#22084089)
Because they have hundreds of new airplanes sitting on the ground, as well as a tooled up production line as well as the innumerable companies involved in the supply chain.

The 737 Max issues have been causing layoffs at supplier companies that were heavily reliant on the Max as a source of income.

Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by dkarras on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:41AM (#22084117)
Yes but that only explains the magnitude of this disaster for Boeing. People will not merrily board these planes just because Boeing is between a rock and a hard place, because of their own wrongdoing no less.
Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by tyfon on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:38AM (#22084100)
Yeah but nobody is going to get on that thing. The moment someone tries to use that model again there will be headlines like "XX Airlines puts death plane back in the sky" etc.

It's a waste of money trying to get it back on track.

Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by the_mitsuhiko on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:39AM (#22084109)
> Yeah but nobody is going to get on that thing

People absolutely will. Boeing is literally too big to fail and people don't care enough either. If someone can have a 50 Euro flight from Berlin to London they won't mind if it's a reintroduced 737 MAX.

Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by Arnt on Saturday January 18, 2020 @08:26AM (#22084312)
A lot of people forget that Boeing doesn't sell 50 Euro flights. Or any flights, or any 50 Euro item.

The people who buy carelessly for 50 Euro aren't Boeing's customers.

The people who are Boeing's customers are airlines, who pay eight- and nine-digit sums and perform due diligence. "Well, one group of customers won't care" is not due diligence. So if, say, Lufthansa concludes that the 50-euro customers won't care but the 500- and 2000-euro ones might, that has an impact on what price Lufthansa is willing to pay.

Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by dkarras on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:44AM (#22084130)
We'll see about that. Why would airlines accept to operate these planes at a significant loss after the loss they incurred with this whole fiasco to begin with?

I personally wouldn't board this plane until it had a spotless record a decade in the air even if they paid me for it. And I'm someone who loves flying so no specific phobia involved.

Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by kalleboo on Saturday January 18, 2020 @09:59AM (#22084744)
> Why would airlines accept to operate these planes

Because their other option is getting at the end of the line for an A320neo and get delivery in 6 years (or worse)

Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by rsynnott on Saturday January 18, 2020 @09:36AM (#22084613)
Ryanair, the largest supplier of such flights, has never had a fatal accident, and is quite proud about that. They’re sticking by Boeing for now, but if the ultimate fix is questionable, who knows.
Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by chopin on Saturday January 18, 2020 @06:47PM (#22088238)
They had however incidents involving underfueled machines.

And there's the problem for Boeing: They better make sure that no more MAX's fall out of the sky due to their fault otherwise airlines will skip the machines. What would happen with Ryan Air if they had one or two accidents like those happened? Knowingly using machines with the past of the MAX. Rage would be allo over the net, I am sure. And Ryan Air would be in a very tough position.

Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by jsmonkey on Saturday January 18, 2020 @08:10AM (#22084234)
They'll just rebrand it, an average flyer won't know the difference between 737MAX and the older model by looks. At best they might be able to tell that it's a 737.
Re:New Software Flaw Could Further Delay Boeing’s 737 Max by ulfw on Saturday January 18, 2020 @08:24AM (#22084296)
Cheating is what has gotten Boeing into this place to begin with. Another cheat (sorry, "rebranding") won't exactly increase confidence.

Oh don't worry flying public. This isn't the shit 737max. This is the 737-8! Totally different thing! Believe me, it's true.