Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM
by pnako on Friday January 17, 2020 @11:03PM
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Saying that women give up a career to look after their children is like lamenting the fact that people are giving up drinking to look after their liver.
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Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM
by filleduchaos on Friday January 17, 2020 @11:31PM
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Do you consider a career to be a literally body-destroying poison for men as well or only for women?
Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM
by pnako on Friday January 17, 2020 @11:56PM
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The French word for work, 'travail', comes from 'tripalium', a medieval torture instrument. It's bad for everyone, and I definitely think a society where only one parent has to work instead of two is better.
A 'career' is something pop singers and top athletes (male or female) have. They even have agents to manage those careers. But most people have a job; they do work, travail, tripalium.
The fact that people confuse the two is just capitalist propaganda.
Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM
by dang on Sunday January 19, 2020 @12:56PM
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I was all set to be cunningham's-lawed into telling you that's wrong about "travail", but holy shit, you're right:
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=travail
Maybe I shouldn't be so surprised, since English still has the word "travails".
"Work" on the other hand means action, doing:
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=work
That's quite a difference: one is something no one wants, and the other is something everyone does.
"Labor" falls on the "travail" side, meaning exertion, pain:
Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM
by GrayTextIsTruth on Saturday January 18, 2020 @03:54AM
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Yes. I would be in better health gardening all day and building things with my hands. Probably have better mental health too.