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Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by pnako on Friday January 17, 2020 @11:03PM (#22082177)
Saying that women give up a career to look after their children is like lamenting the fact that people are giving up drinking to look after their liver.
Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by filleduchaos on Friday January 17, 2020 @11:31PM (#22082281)
Do you consider a career to be a literally body-destroying poison for men as well or only for women?
Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by pnako on Friday January 17, 2020 @11:56PM (#22082383)
The French word for work, 'travail', comes from 'tripalium', a medieval torture instrument. It's bad for everyone, and I definitely think a society where only one parent has to work instead of two is better.

A 'career' is something pop singers and top athletes (male or female) have. They even have agents to manage those careers. But most people have a job; they do work, travail, tripalium.

The fact that people confuse the two is just capitalist propaganda.

Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by dang on Sunday January 19, 2020 @12:56PM (#22092769)
I was all set to be cunningham's-lawed into telling you that's wrong about "travail", but holy shit, you're right:

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=travail

Maybe I shouldn't be so surprised, since English still has the word "travails".

"Work" on the other hand means action, doing:

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=work

That's quite a difference: one is something no one wants, and the other is something everyone does.

"Labor" falls on the "travail" side, meaning exertion, pain:

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=labor

Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by GrayTextIsTruth on Saturday January 18, 2020 @03:54AM (#22083273)
Yes. I would be in better health gardening all day and building things with my hands. Probably have better mental health too.