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Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by DavidVoid on Friday January 17, 2020 @05:30PM (#22080227)
>It is high time to recognize that 2 children is still a lot of effort and make room for Mothers to take care of their own children.

It's high time that fathers start putting in some more work in that department too. Sweden has 480 days of paid parental leave, and each parent has exclusive right to 90 of those days. Have fathers spend some time raising their kids instead of just letting their wives do it and you'll see that things should get better.

Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by Consultant32452 on Friday January 17, 2020 @09:06PM (#22081690)
This is a very feminized view of child rearing. Fatherhood's traditional gender role in raising children is to provide resources and protection. If you don't recognize that as "parenting" then you are missing the plot. Hugs are great, but not nearly as great as food and shelter.
Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by DavidVoid on Saturday January 18, 2020 @05:29AM (#22083626)
So you think that if a father is just working (and essentially doing what he'd do if he didn't have a child) then that should be considered good parenting because he's providing resources? Might as well call every working man a good parent then even if they barely even interact with their kids.

There are very important emotional aspects to parenting that you people who constantly complain about feminism seem to completely ignore, I'd much rather have a father who's there and who I can spend time with than a father who's working two jobs because "more money earned == better parent".

Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by tlear on Saturday January 18, 2020 @06:04AM (#22083749)
This is privilege speaking. As a upper middle class it is easy to scale back.. have more time blah blah

Now try that if you are under the mean. Good luck. It is absolutely the case that SOMEONE has to pay the bills. If you are making 40-60k and alone you can live pretty ok, now try that with 3 kids.

Making so much money you can afford to relax, take time to hangout with kids, take them skiing, buy PC for them, take them travelling, feed them good food. Put them in school where they will make connections for the future. You will absolutely makes a better parent, period.

Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by conanbatt on Sunday January 19, 2020 @01:08PM (#22092841)
Poor people also pay taxes, so they would be paying for it themselves!

There are more effective ways to help poor people than special paternity clauses/bonuses etc.

Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by oezi on Saturday January 18, 2020 @01:44AM (#22082813)
Today, just providing "resources and protection" is indeed considered parenting but inadequate. Any man can help with hugs and the household given the reduced work hours.
Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by Consultant32452 on Saturday January 18, 2020 @10:23AM (#22084881)
https://www.feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/child-hunge...

1 in 7 children in America may not know where their next meal is coming from. Many children live in unsafe neighborhoods.

I think perhaps a better way of putting it is that men are primarily responsible for the lower tiers of Maslow's hierarchy of needs while women are primarily responsible for the upper tiers. Obviously that doesn't mean a man can never change a diaper or a woman can never pay a bill.

Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by conanbatt on Sunday January 19, 2020 @01:07PM (#22092831)
I remember reading that in a nordic country they had 1 year of parental leave to be shared, and men got 1 month and women 11 months. There goes your gender-equality.