The Boring Company’s Las Vegas tunnel is nearly 50% done

Re:The Boring Company’s Las Vegas tunnel is nearly 50% done by Erlich_Bachman on Friday January 17, 2020 @03:52AM (#22073014)

> And Tesla's Gigfactory is a JV with Panasonic and partially funded by taxpayers.

What you don't seem to understand is that the battery tech's problems currently are not the chemical process or format of the cells, but the volume. The volume of cells that we are able to produce. This is a major bottleneck of electric cars. It is not just some minor problem, it is a great fundamental problem.

This is also why tesla can churn out hundreds of thousands of cars with battery only, and with range of hundreds of miles, and where practically all other manufacturers in this price range are only able to do hybdrids with small batteries. This is not coincidence, this is because tesla has a gigafactory and those others do not and are subject to volume problems in the outside battery production chain.

So no this is not only about vision, Tesla (whether Musk himself or his engineers) identified a real problem, and engineered a real solution - the gigafactory.

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Re:The Boring Company’s Las Vegas tunnel is nearly 50% done by mbesto on Friday January 17, 2020 @09:21AM (#22074778)

> What you don't seem to understand is that the battery tech's problems currently are not the chemical process or format of the cells, but the volume.

> So no this is not only about vision, Tesla (whether Musk himself or his engineers) identified a real problem, and engineered a real solution - the gigafactory

So, Musk identified a problem (manufacturing batteries at scale), found a vendor with a solution (Panasonic) and sold it under the name Tesla.

Do you see my point now?

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Re:The Boring Company’s Las Vegas tunnel is nearly 50% done by Erlich_Bachman on Friday January 17, 2020 @10:36AM (#22075494)

> Do you see my point now?

Not really, what is your point?

Every car manufacturer uses parts sourced from other companies - software, parts of engines, whole engines, whole gearboxes, complete modules, raw materials... That's how the industry works...

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Re:The Boring Company’s Las Vegas tunnel is nearly 50% done by mbesto on Friday January 17, 2020 @04:00PM (#22079248)

> Every car manufacturer uses parts sourced from other companies

> and engineered a real solution

So, which is it? Did he outsource the parts like every other company or did he engineer a solution?

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Re:The Boring Company’s Las Vegas tunnel is nearly 50% done by Erlich_Bachman on Saturday January 18, 2020 @03:32AM (#22083194)

I assume that you have undertaken some engineering tasks in the past, and so then you have surely experienced that research, proper selection and setting up the sourcing chain for the parts is a big chunk of decisions that go into engineering a production line or even a single project/machine. Research that ultimately affects the choice of mechanical and otherwise building of the machines itself, because it depends on which parts are viable to source.

So not sure why you would focus on that superficial difference here, like what are you trying to prove? I don't understand your point. Elon Musk has a lot of results behind his companies to prove that he can engineer and a good ratio of technical terms and numbers he can spur off the top of his head in an interview to prove that he is not even mainly marketer, his brain is in engineering, he knows the technical stuff deeply down to revision numbers and decimal points and can give you an educated opinion on technical matters. So this shows you that he is indeed an engineer, not sure if that's your point even though?

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