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Re:Broken Links by prodigal_erik on Thursday February 10, 2011 @01:52PM (#2203154)
In that case "web application" is a misnomer. If the current state has no natural URL, it's not a legitimate part of the World-Wide Web. Instead the authors are tunneling a proprietary protocol over AJAX to carry opaque content to a single-purpose GUI app, just like all the terrible client/server apps from the 90s only slower.
Re:Broken Links by vannevar on Friday February 11, 2011 @01:41PM (#2207587)
If the current state has no natural URL, it's not a legitimate part of the World-Wide Web.

But most of the popular content accessible via the web now fits this description. Look at Google's own homepage, it's a complex Javascript application that's completely opaque. @bruceboughton is right, the problem isn't that people aren't respecting the WWW specification, it's that the specification is no longer adequate to describe what the Web has become.

Re:Broken Links by prodigal_erik on Friday February 11, 2011 @03:28PM (#2208007)
Google has competent web developers who practice progressive enhancement. Their search form and results have stable (even sensible) URLs and are perfectly usable without trusting their js.
Re:Broken Links by vannevar on Friday February 11, 2011 @04:13PM (#2208157)
Sure the application has a URL. But once I load it, it constructs what I see on the page on the fly. I can turn Javascript off and load an alternate page, but if I leave it on I'm loading an application that's every bit as opaque as Flash.