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Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by userbinator on Saturday January 11, 2020 @04:32PM (#22022467)
positives (anyone named "Fuck", ostensibly).

This guy would disagree:

http://mw.eco.br/ig/prof/ReinhardtAdolfoFuck.htm

Along the same lines,

https://www.nie.edu.sg/profile/chew-shit-fun

Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by danso on Saturday January 11, 2020 @04:39PM (#22022508)
Yeah, no name filter is going to be perfect for all edge cases. But presumably, it's a lot cheaper to have the Lyft support team handle email tickets from the relatively few Professor Fucks, than to have them also deal with every Cummings and Dick.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by xxxtentachyon on Saturday January 11, 2020 @05:18PM (#22022754)
Or just not filter names on an app like Lyft. You can't even see other users' names. Who is potentially being harmed by even a malicious Professor Fuck?
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by zulln on Saturday January 11, 2020 @05:23PM (#22022783)
Drivers? Cannot imagine it being a big problem people having really offensive names though, after all you are actually meeting the driver irl and expect them to.. well, drive you.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by robjan on Sunday January 12, 2020 @04:45AM (#22025410)
If the drivers are harmed, why not just allow people to use their name regardless of offensiveness and then just display it to drivers as "Professor F*". Sure, it's not ideal but it prevents people arbitrarily being kicked off the system and from drivers being offended by their passengers' names.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by feanaro on Sunday January 12, 2020 @06:04AM (#22025680)
Or, perhaps people just shouldn't be offended by names. There are more important things in life.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by IgorPartola on Sunday January 12, 2020 @09:00AM (#22026288)
If your driver’s name was Hitler Did Nothing Wrong Nazis Rule, would you want to drive with them? I think name filtering like this is incredibly dumb and have never seen a good implementation of it. But “don’t be offended” is rarely the blanket answer people seem to think it is.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by iddqd on Sunday January 12, 2020 @10:09AM (#22026575)
Don’t know much about Lyft in particular, but with the amount of reports and cancellations you get with a name like that you’d get booted of the platform pretty quickly, no?
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by manquer on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:36AM (#22027178)
It is not the same for drivers though. Drivers have to use their real name as in their driving licence . I doubt that a registered legal name is going to be that kind of offensive.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by thiagomgd on Monday January 13, 2020 @08:15PM (#22040781)
If that's the person's name, should they be excluded from those apps? Also: shouldn't they change their names in those extreme cases?
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by likeclockwork on Monday January 13, 2020 @12:36PM (#22036591)
I'd want to know if that was their name, so I could not get into their car.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by DaiPlusPlus on Saturday January 11, 2020 @09:35PM (#22024077)
Drivers have to go the in-personal approval thing first though, and they'd present their driver's license that would have their name on it - so the Lyft/Uber/etc employee who approves their driver status would presumably also verify that their name is real.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by Thorrez on Sunday January 12, 2020 @03:13AM (#22025139)
zulln isn't saying drivers are spoofing their names. zulln is saying drivers are being harmed by riders spoofing their names.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by lilyball on Sunday January 12, 2020 @07:30PM (#22030852)
Not only do drivers see your name, but I believe when you do a Shared Lyft, other riders also see your first name. And customer support will see your name as well.

In general, just because someone is providing a service to you (e.g. driving you, providing customer support, etc) doesn't mean they should be unnecessarily exposed to offensive language.

Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by LocalH on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @12:39PM (#22056284)
It’s not “offensive language” if it’s legitimately part of someone’s name (and I don’t mean the obvious bullshit cases, but cases where someone has had the name since birth).
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by Izkata on Sunday January 12, 2020 @06:15PM (#22030410)
> You can't even see other users' names.

You do see their first/given name for identification on pickup.

Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by gcb0 on Saturday January 11, 2020 @08:53PM (#22023897)
I call those systems "auto-censorship".

They are as dumb and undesirable as incomplete regex email filters in web forms.

Every single one ever written will have this problem. And ironically, absolutely nobody reading a fart joke will ever be offended. But the millions of people who are denied service and not twitter famous enough to reach a dot-com employee are very much offended.

...Also, the single reason to add those auto-censorship features is to please advertisers, not to protect users/drivers from fart jokes.

Expect Advertisement on lyft very, very soon.

Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by ufo on Saturday January 11, 2020 @06:05PM (#22023029)
Fucks is Germanic surname. It isn't the most common, but it isn't rare either. Sometimes it is spelt "Fuchs", "Fuks", or "Fux".
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by bashinator on Saturday January 11, 2020 @09:07PM (#22023956)
Means “Fox”?
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by chihuahua on Saturday January 11, 2020 @09:31PM (#22024064)
"Fuchs" (pronounced fooks) is the German word for "Fox", and the other variants (Fux etc) have the same pronunciation.

The flower Fuchsia is named after someone called Fuchs, and therefore the correct pronunciation is "fook-seeah", not "foo-shah".

Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by Macha on Saturday January 11, 2020 @07:10PM (#22023398)
And what about Mr. Fucks, the fast food worker with no network to get his issues in front of a Lyft employee? He's probably just unable to use the service.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by GrantZvolsky on Saturday January 11, 2020 @08:02PM (#22023636)
That guy's so used to services failing him that he doesn't use his real name unless necessary.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by saagarjha on Saturday January 11, 2020 @09:27PM (#22024040)
…which of course is a valid reason to deny him access from your service, too.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by GrantZvolsky on Sunday January 12, 2020 @04:50AM (#22025427)
My point was not to defend the blacklisting of expletives. I remember a CS prof giving us dozens of legitimate uses, including people with Scunthorpe domain email not having their mail delivered. My point was that Mr Fucks is not as helpless as he seems and probably spells his name Fuchs when entering his name into a computer because he can't tell which system is poorly designed and which is not.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by knolax on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:29AM (#22027126)
Until another computer system denies him service for not spelling his name exactly as it is on his ID.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by Piskvorrr on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @05:02AM (#22043359)
In other words, you are saying he's a non-person. How very nice of you.
Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by spacechild1 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @07:47AM (#22026049)
In Austria, we have many people called “Fick“, which literally means “Fuck“.

BTW, isn't it insulting to those people to suggest that their names are insulting?

Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by SilasX on Sunday January 12, 2020 @09:55AM (#22026514)
And, of course, there’s the town of Fucking:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking,_Austria

Re:Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names lik... by jliptzin on Saturday January 11, 2020 @06:33PM (#22023210)
That second link actually made me spit out coffee for the first time in my life.