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Re:Glacier National Park to remove all 'glaciers will be gon... by Mountain_Skies on Thursday January 09, 2020 @04:29PM (#22006012)
Simple solution: stop making predictions with a degree of claimed accuracy that doesn't exist. There's no good reason to put a deadline such as 2020 on a prediction except as an attempt to imply a degree of certainty that doesn't exist. Climate change skeptics exist for many reasons and these poorly thought out predictions just feed into them.
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Re:Glacier National Park to remove all 'glaciers will be gon... by Johnny555 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @04:33PM (#22006062)
I think the reason is to imply the sense of urgency that does exist - whether the 7000 year old glaciers melt in one decade or two, that's still a warning that the climate is warming.
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Re:Glacier National Park to remove all 'glaciers will be gon... by awb on Thursday January 09, 2020 @04:37PM (#22006105)
Right but OC's comment still stands: state the uncertainty rather than project certainty.

"Glaciers are projected to disappear between 2020 and 2030 based on current emission trends" would still be alarming.

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Re:Glacier National Park to remove all 'glaciers will be gon... by bavell on Thursday January 09, 2020 @04:45PM (#22006228)
Exactly, you don't need to twist the facts to maintain the degree of urgency. Just needs the right framing.

"This glacier likely won't survive long enough for your kids/grandkids to see themselves"

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Re:Glacier National Park to remove all 'glaciers will be gon... by beerandt on Thursday January 09, 2020 @04:51PM (#22006278)
Well if we're going to still claim it's science, there needs to be a measurable range stated.

Being over ambiguous just to be right can be just as misleading as overstating certainty. (Think Nostradamus type claims.)

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Re:Glacier National Park to remove all 'glaciers will be gon... by bavell on Thursday January 09, 2020 @04:40PM (#22006163)
This x1000. Stop giving them ammunition to further muddy the waters!
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