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Re:Judge orders Google to turn over a full year of actor’s data by dredmorbius on Thursday January 09, 2020 @01:53AM (#21999070)
Scale.

40, or even 20 years ago, the State might have been able to note a record of phone calls, postal correspondence (look up "postal covers"), some financial purchases, periodicals subscriptions, and with a great deal of effort, some of my travels and movements, mostly limited to specific port entries and exits, and air travel.

But unavailable would have been: dictionary queries, encyclopedia queries, books read, specific magazine articles read, the contents of virtually all conversations, detailed movement and location history, social associations, detailed purchase history, and more.

Today, mobile devices report location to a precision of inches at a frequency of minutes. Any random query of momentary interest can create a permanent record. As a HN submission earlier today notes, simply casually perusing a document -- clicking a link -- can result in having your home raided and all electronic devices confiscated and held for a year: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21992491

The scope and scale of intrusiveness is absolutely unprecedented.

Yes, the State has some rights and powers. It also has a tremendous responsibility, which it increasingly seems to fail to excercise appropriately.

And I say this regardless of specific country or jurisdiction -- the story linked above comes from Germany, and instances readily come to mind from the UK, US, Japan, China, Russia, India, Saudi Arabia, and elsewhere.

The corruption of absolute power is not bounded by culture, constitution, or ideology.

Re:Judge orders Google to turn over a full year of actor’s data by Nasrudith on Thursday January 09, 2020 @07:44AM (#22000692)
Sorry to go off on one irrelevant point but I feel it is highly important to say this at every opportunity: states don't have rights. It is an absurdity and a mockery of human rights to claim such a concept and legitimize fiefdoms over real people. So called rights in their case would be entitlement to powers for power's sake.

Anyway to get to your main body I agree and note what makes the scale bad ultimately is abuse potential for it. For a fantastic example being able to look up details of everyone but only 500 years or more ago wouldn't be abusable for instance because everyone is long dead and it wouldn't be viable to try to change ownership based on it because it already diverged for several generations. Even if you could backtrace they couldn't be reconciled very effectively.

Re:Judge orders Google to turn over a full year of actor’s data by dredmorbius on Thursday January 09, 2020 @04:20PM (#22005907)
At a pragmatic level, rights exist for any entity capable of, whether by individual or collective action, claiming and defending them.

The notion of innate human rights is a collective claim on rights. It is not the only mechanism for claims to rights.

States' levels of effective control, and hence, access to rights, vary greatly, from near-absolute to wholly impotent.

This approach is based on rights as a pragmatic reality, not a moral ideal.