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Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by munk-a on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @08:17PM (#21997578)
1. Software developer moves to Pittsburgh to save money on cost of living.

2. Software developer realizes there is an air problem.

3. Software developer advises other software developers to avoid the city.

Why, in this process of events isn't he appealing to the local government more - as a member of a workforce that is able to afford moving pretty trivially and can actually reside in crazy locales like SF it's rather depressing to see lines like:

> I credit myself with discouraging at least a dozen contacts in the tech industry from considering Pittsburgh until the situation improves.

Without even a spare moment's thought to the residents in Pittsburgh that are stuck there.

Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by bobthepanda on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @08:43PM (#21997704)
"As a result, I am also leaving and transferring to a different office within Google. However, I am not going quietly. I am active on our internal lists, encouraging people to use the ‘SmellPGH’ app and to submit county and state environmental complaint forms, for all the lack of good it seems to do."

It seems like he's at least tried.

Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by gethoht on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @11:34PM (#21998607)
*barely tried
Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by hombre_fatal on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @09:54PM (#21998119)
So, what exactly are you doing to help the people of Pittsburgh if you're complaining that OP didn't do enough despite TFA?

How is this not the emptiest and most self-righteous form of virtue-signaling we get on HN?

How could you write this comment instead of volunteering at your local soup kitchen and petitioning the government to end homelessness? You'll have to try harder to appease my arbitrary internet expectations of you, or I'll call you out.

Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by lotsofpulp on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @09:29PM (#21997994)
>Without even a spare moment's thought to the residents in Pittsburgh that are stuck there.

I wouldn't expect anyone to subject their children and family and themselves to something they believe is unhealthy if they can afford not to. And I don't see what else this person could do other than support politicians who will empower the EPA.

Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by rytill on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @09:32PM (#21998012)
Are you suggesting people who currently have lives built up in Pittsburgh also leave instead of improving the situation?
Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by lotsofpulp on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @09:35PM (#21998024)
I'm not suggesting anyone do anything, but expecting someone to not move their family out of harm's way is unrealistic. This is not a situation that can be solved in the short term, nor with any decent chance of success. Therefore if you believe you are subjecting your family to a hazard by living there, the only option is to leave.
Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by rytill on Thursday January 09, 2020 @03:01AM (#21999353)
> expecting someone to not move their family out of harm’s way is unrealistic

> only option is to leave

Classic black and white thinking HN-style weakness.

Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by lotsofpulp on Thursday January 09, 2020 @06:09AM (#22000196)
I’m open to hearing what one should do if they believe the air around them is harmful to their family’s health.
Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by rytill on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:15AM (#22002380)
Should? Previously you were expecting people to move.

It’s complicated and involves someone’s entire life circumstances. There’s no catch-all function which only takes the parameter `airQuality` that people adhere to like machines.

Families get entrenched. People have real estate. Culture melds with you. You get connected to the local politics. There are so many reasons that one would attempt to improve or accept their local situation instead of leaving.

Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by lotsofpulp on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:52AM (#22002810)
Yes, my expectations are based on my experiences of people prioritizing their family's health above all else, assuming they have income security. If I was in a situation where my children are breathing in air I thought was harmful to them in the long term, and I had the ability to move somewhere where they weren't being harmed, I would prioritize that above all else.

I would be shocked if I met someone who would sacrifice their family's health if they had a decent option where they wouldn't have to. This probably doesn't apply to most people, as they might have to weigh trade offs such as moving away from family and whatnot, but the person who wrote the article is obviously earning far above most, and can afford to easily move.

Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by rwem on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @08:23PM (#21997615)
The air pollution in Pittsburgh isn’t caused by things under the control of the local government or even the state government. It accumulates and blows in from west of there. Only the US federal government can fix it.
Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by jasonvm on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @09:42PM (#21998053)
Where is it coming from, specifically?
Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by jshaqaw on Thursday January 09, 2020 @07:19AM (#22000566)
In the NYC area we get a lot of pollution from coal burning power plans in the Midwest. Air currents take all that pollution and dump it here. Probably similar for Pittsburgh.
Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by dgacmu on Thursday January 09, 2020 @07:57AM (#22000789)
Mostly from Clairton, PA.
Re:Leaving Pittsburgh because of industrial air pollution by chrisco255 on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @11:33PM (#21998595)
Is this a subtle dig at Ohio?