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Re:Snowpack: Build a web application without a bundler by robertoandred on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @06:54PM (#21997079)
Hate to break it to you, but servers and server-side rendering existed before React.

Sounds like you're blaming good tools instead of bad developers.

Re:Snowpack: Build a web application without a bundler by Nextgrid on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @07:02PM (#21997135)
There is no world where a tool or language for which you need hundreds of megabytes of unknown untrusted dependencies of dubious quality is considered a good tool.
Re:Snowpack: Build a web application without a bundler by grumple on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @07:06PM (#21997157)
...what? He was bemoaning React making things far more difficult than they need to be. And I think that’s a fair assessment of the situation. There’s a minimum overhead to maintaining a modern js app that is far higher than maintaining say, a Rails frontend. And it’s more costly for every change.
Re:Snowpack: Build a web application without a bundler by robertoandred on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @07:19PM (#21997248)
Rails and React are in no way comparable. They solve entirely different problems.
Re:Snowpack: Build a web application without a bundler by adamrt on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @07:01PM (#21997129)
He's saying that there is client side rendering and now there needs to _also_ be server side rendering to compensate for its shortcomings.
Re:Snowpack: Build a web application without a bundler by robertoandred on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @07:07PM (#21997165)
There doesn't need to be server-side rendering to use React. There also doesn't need to be client-side rendering to use React.

Besides, a combo of PHP backend codebase and a jQuery frontend codebase has many more shortcomings than a single React codebase.