Re:The Modern Mind May Be 100k Years Old (2016)
by FisDugthop on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @04:52PM
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The Sea Peoples were real, and so was the Bronze Age collapse. There's no need to speculate about Atlantis when we know that there was a very real epidemic of Mediterranean civilizations collapsing due to pressure from invaders.
Re:The Modern Mind May Be 100k Years Old (2016)
by WalterBright on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @03:53PM
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Zero evidence of things like refined metals or synthetic materials in the geologic record makes the odds of an advanced ancient civilization seem highly improbable.
Re:The Modern Mind May Be 100k Years Old (2016)
by reggieband on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @03:58PM
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Yes, I've heard of refined glass as being one of the indicators. However, pretty advanced technologies like pottery would not have made it.
I can't be sure this [1] is the original article I was remembering but it might be an interesting read anyways. I am sure the study authors approach the subject with far greater care than I could.
1. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industri...
Re:The Modern Mind May Be 100k Years Old (2016)
by WalterBright on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @04:23PM
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I don't agree that pottery is "pretty advanced". It's just fire applied to clay.
Concrete, on the other hand, is advanced.
The novel "The Hab Theory" is a good story about the discovery of prehistoric civilizations.
I do recall, on hacker news I believe, an article posted based on a study by NASA scientists that tried to calculate the likelihood of finding evidence for civilizations 10 thousand years, 100 thousand years or older. What is shocking is how quickly any remnants of an advanced civilization could deteriorate. IIRC, the conclusion of the study was that the chance of us finding any evidence of civilizations that old were extremely small.
The idea that there was an ancient civilization over 10 thousand years ago is entirely plausible to me. Massive geological events (or even astrological ones like asteroid impacts) could have altered entire continents. Who knows what evidence is at the bottom of the Pacific ocean that we cannot access. Or what evidence has been forced under tectonic plates through subduction.
Of course, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and so far none of the presented evidence is extraordinary (IMO). But our fixed notion that civilization sprang up nearly fully formed 10 thousand years ago doesn't seem as clear to me as it once did.