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Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by m0zg on Monday January 06, 2020 @05:55AM (#21968162)
Are you able to buy real estate in a decent location? Because if you can't, you're not "high middle class". Housing is not a luxury.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by kungtotte on Monday January 06, 2020 @08:52AM (#21969094)
Yes, we are able to buy real estate in a decent location. We live not far outside Stockholm where prices are really high compared to the rest of the country, and we had no problems buying our house.

My salary is ~twice the median income for this area, and by any measure we're at the upper end of middle class by Swedish standards.

Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by hycaria on Monday January 06, 2020 @09:38AM (#21969393)
Not far outside is a very lax definition. A 500K Mortgage (affordable with aforementioned salaries) gets you a 2 bedroom in good neighborhoods in Paris, 3 in lesser ones. Sure, if you're ready to go 20 km away you can get a rather nice house at that price (say 100-150m2 with a garden of variable size), but at the cost of commuting 30min-1hr everyday.

Anyways, I wouldn't consider someone establishing outside of an european city (esp when working there) "high middle class". If you can't afford central housing of your choice, you dont qualify.

Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by kungtotte on Monday January 06, 2020 @10:07AM (#21969635)
A 2 room apartment in central Stockholm, 40m2 starts at $303000 right now (that's a current listing).

https://maps.app.goo.gl/PnrNuo2k3LsgaeG89

That apartment is 44km as the crow flies from my house, 55km by car (45-50min of driving).

Is your definition of "high middle class" really if we're able to afford central Stockholm housing?

Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by 2rsf on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @07:10AM (#21979187)
Don't forget public transportation which is non existent or bad in many places in the US, a 30-45 minutes on a Stockholm Metro or train takes down the prices significantly. Those 300,000$ can buy you a nice semi detached and you won't need a car on a daily basis.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by m0zg on Monday January 06, 2020 @06:09PM (#21974568)
On 42K/yr pre (crazy) tax? Tell me more about how that works.