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Re:Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors ... by tpmx on Saturday January 04, 2020 @03:43PM (#21957356)
1. That's an insanely large part of that population.

2. 11% still doesn't go a long way in explaining the "fatherless issue", although we probably need firm numbers on that too.

Re:Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors ... by cm2012 on Saturday January 04, 2020 @03:51PM (#21957426)
"For boys born in 2001, the lifetime probability of incarceration is estimated to be 32 percent for young black men."

That's absolutely enough to tilt the data significantly.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/11/mass-incarceration-statis...

Re:Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors ... by tpmx on Saturday January 04, 2020 @03:55PM (#21957459)
Yikes. Still, it doesn't change the father-away issue fundamentally, I think?
Re:Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors ... by wavefunction on Saturday January 04, 2020 @03:54PM (#21957446)
11% may even seem like a small number until you consider that not all the black men who have been incarcerated at least once in their life are currently incarcerated. 25% of black and hispanic men will face incarceration at least once in their life[0]. The incarceration is also skewed towards younger men who are one supposes potentially more likely to miss out on the formative years of their children's lives. It's also difficult for a strong family to develop in this situation imo. Life is about getting a good start and keeping that momentum going as steadily and predictably as possible.

[0]https://bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/Llgsfp.pdf

Re:Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors ... by intrepidhero on Saturday January 04, 2020 @04:27PM (#21957701)
11% is a huge and totally unacceptable number. We need to get our shit together.