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Re:Want to be a leader? Wash the Dishes When Nobody Else Will. by jarek on Tuesday February 08, 2011 @06:41PM (#2195430)
Long enough to learn to say "no."
Re:Want to be a leader? Wash the Dishes When Nobody Else Will. by alnayyir on Tuesday February 08, 2011 @08:36PM (#2195823)
In my country, programmers work salary unless they're contractors and don't have any conception of overtime in their contracts.

Maybe things are different where you are.

Re:Want to be a leader? Wash the Dishes When Nobody Else Will. by jarek on Tuesday February 08, 2011 @09:28PM (#2195990)
I'm paid salary and I'm under the impression that's the norm. Nevertheless there is a fairly standard work week and more than one way of compensation for exceeding that.
Re:Want to be a leader? Wash the Dishes When Nobody Else Will. by alnayyir on Tuesday February 08, 2011 @11:10PM (#2196252)
>there is a fairly standard work week and more than one way of compensation for exceeding that.

I call it a raise or a promotion.

Or keeping your job for doing it. You're salaried at a particular rate under the assumption that step up to the plate in case of emergency/deadline, otherwise they'd pay you less or pay you hourly.

Which kind goes back to edw's anecdote about his dad.

Rising to the occasion.

Re:Want to be a leader? Wash the Dishes When Nobody Else Will. by jarek on Tuesday February 08, 2011 @11:33PM (#2196326)
At my workplace we've been offered incentive bonuses or additional paid vacation time in addition to standard raises/promotions, but hey, whatever works for you and your employer.

I doubt accepting unnecessary unrelated busywork is very strongly correlated with "rising to the occasion," unless the occasions are death marches.

Re:Want to be a leader? Wash the Dishes When Nobody Else Will. by alnayyir on Wednesday February 09, 2011 @12:09AM (#2196442)
Crossing your wires chief. Unrelated busywork isn't what I was talking about, anymore.
Re:Want to be a leader? Wash the Dishes When Nobody Else Will. by chopsueyar on Wednesday February 09, 2011 @10:48AM (#2197788)
Respectfully, you are kind of acting like a dick.

If one weekend, the toilets back up and he has to clean up the mess and deliver a milestone, he deserves a raise or rises to sr. dev?

So he gets a raise, and now he has no reason to complain if the toilet backs up once a month while he is working that weekend?