Re:Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
by fnbr on Saturday January 04, 2020 @12:36AM
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In my experience, it's all cars in Canada- I've never seen one that doesn't have it (other than imports). I guess you could probably get away without it on the west coast.
Most cars do start though. It’s really a maintenance issue, where it’s bad for your car to start it at -30 (as the linked article says). In my experience, a newer car in decent shape will start consistently.
Re:Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
by jacquesm on Saturday January 04, 2020 @01:00AM
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You'd have a very hard time starting a diesel without a block heater. When I lived in Canada I kept an older Ford (a 1949 one!) around for winter use because the diesel tractor was that much harder to start. You can make things a bit better by mixing about 5% gasoline in with the diesel to avoid the diesel becoming flaky but that has limits too and the Canadian winters can throw -40 Celsius at you with some regularity.
Block heaters are a must in that environment.
Re:Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
by matt_the_bass on Saturday January 04, 2020 @07:58PM
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Fun fact: -40C == -40F
Re:Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
by inferiorhuman on Saturday January 04, 2020 @01:30AM
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Yeah my E39 doesn't have any sort of heater and it came from BC. I've not seen anywhere to plug a block heater in though BMW did sell auxiliary coolant heaters (from Webasto). Of course if I lived in a climate where block heaters were required a BMW wouldn't be my first choice. The heated seats and steering wheel come in handy more than I thought they would tho.
Re:Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
by freeone3000 on Saturday January 04, 2020 @01:22AM
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I live in the habitable zone near the US and while I've heard of one, I've never seen one.
Re:Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
by lb1lf on Saturday January 04, 2020 @01:31PM
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-Block heaters are quite common in Norway, too - and while my old diesel will start in -30C without one, it does not like it. (I cheat, though - the starter motor is pilfered from a light truck, and two batteries with approx. 800 CCA each work in parallel to make it turn over; it was a necessity as there is no electricity where we park the car before heading for our cabin in the mountains...)
In addition to less engine wear, it also works wonders for fuel consumption and makes the car comfortably warm in a couple of minutes.
Re:Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
by greglindahl on Saturday January 04, 2020 @01:22AM
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Engine block heaters are a part of optional or standard cold weather kits in cars sold all over the colder places in the world.
Electric cars have the standard advice to leave them plugged in overnight in cold areas.
Re:Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
by Waterluvian on Saturday January 04, 2020 @08:38AM
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Standard in every car I've owned in Canada. Never needed it.
Re:Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
by tonyarkles on Saturday January 04, 2020 @01:39PM
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Based on your name, I suggest coming west, but not too far west :). Trying to start a car at -40 in SK is rough... if you've got a good battery and thin oil you might be able to, but it's so much nicer after the block heater's been going for a few hours.
Re:Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
by refurb on Saturday January 04, 2020 @02:27PM
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Cold weather starting is MUCH better on cars than it was 30 years ago. Fuel injection made a big difference.
I had to use a block heater (and battery heater) a number of times. But once I moved to a late 80’s car, I almost never had to use the block heater.
Re:Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
by dsfyu404ed on Saturday January 04, 2020 @02:47PM
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Gasoline powered cars in good repair will start just fine any any temperature the North American continent can provide. Block heaters are to speed warmup and reduce wear.
How cold should it be before you use it? Ask the internet:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/globe-drive/culture/comm...