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Re:Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions? by callaars on Friday January 03, 2020 @09:12AM (#21945956)
> 9. Global carbon emissions are not reduced, mostly because of lack of initiative by China and 3rd world countries.

Per capita, it's not the "3rd" world countries that are polluting, but the "1st" worlds (https://cotap.org/per-capita-carbon-co2-emissions-by-country...). I'm sad to see someone still referring to countries as "1st" and "3rd" world, as that's an incredibly outdated term. Also to refer to China as a "3rd world country" is astonishing. I recommend you read the book Factfulness (https://www.gapminder.org/factfulness-book/) to get a better sense in how the world works.

Re:Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions? by vorpalhex on Friday January 03, 2020 @10:37AM (#21946753)
> Also to refer to China as a "3rd world country" is astonishing

> by China and 3rd world countries

By Mary and the guys (indicating that Mary is not a guy).

> Per capita, it's not the "3rd" world countries that are polluting, but the "1st" worlds

From your own source, the top polluters per capita are Qatar, Trinidad & Tobago and Kuwait. Qatar is wealthy, but probably not "1st world".

> I'm sad to see someone still referring to countries as "1st" and "3rd" world, as that's an incredibly outdated term

The AP standard was updated in 2015. The terms "1st", "2nd" and "3rd" world are still in common parlance even though the AP prefers "Developed" and "Developing".

Re:Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions? by callaars on Sunday January 05, 2020 @10:22AM (#21961589)
Show me the AP standard, please, because other sources seem to vehemently disagree with your statement. Unless you are still in the cold war, that is.

I reiterate what I said before, please read Factfulness, and then get back to me.

Also, funnily enough, China was never considered a third-world country, but a second-world one, you know, in Cold war terms.

Re:Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions? by vorpalhex on Monday January 06, 2020 @09:44AM (#21969429)
> Also, funnily enough, China was never considered a third-world country, but a second-world one, you know, in Cold war terms.

Again you're really struggling with the grammar here.

"Mary and the boys".

Is Mary a boy? No, Mary is not a boy. We are indicating Mary is in fact, not part of "the boys". Likewise, "China and 3rd world" indicates China is not 3rd world.

> Show me the AP standard

https://twitter.com/apstylebook/status/631085111220547584?la...

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/01/04/3726844...

> I reiterate what I said before, please read Factfulness, and then get back to me.

Wonderful book, not related to our current disagreement. If we're throwing out recommendations though, then I'd recommend Strunk and White.

Re:Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions? by brd on Friday January 03, 2020 @09:47AM (#21946279)
China is 2x the emitter that the US is and it's going to get worse. China has more than doubled their per capita emissions in the last 20 years. Many other countries will follow suit.

The US and other more developed economies are plateauing in terms of emissions per capita. While there's ample opportunity to begin to claw back those numbers, it is not where the problem lies moving forward.

Re:Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions? by cuchoi on Friday January 03, 2020 @10:20AM (#21946595)
China: 6.4 metric tons of CO2 per capita

United States: 16.5 metric tons of CO2 per capita

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Other developed countries:

Germany: 8.9 metric tons of CO2 per capita

France: 4.6 metric tons of CO2 per capita

UK: 6.5 metric tons of CO2 per capita

Spain: 5 metric tons of CO2 per capita

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This is 2014 data (for comparability), but in 2018 China still had half (7.95 metric tons per capita) the CO2 per capita than the US