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Re:Oslo had 0 pedestrian, 0 cyclist, 0 children and 1 driver... by Johnny555 on Thursday January 02, 2020 @04:09PM (#21939847)
so why bother creating space for those modes.

My suburb had 2 very popular parks at either end -- as kids, we always walked or rode our bikes there... on the road since there were no sidewalks. Likewise when we went to a friends house we generally walked on the road (or cut through people's yards).

There are plenty of reasons to have sidewalks even if there's no commercial destination to get to, not everyone can drive everywhere they need to go. Of course, this was a time when kids were allowed some autonomy, nowadays maybe parents would drive us 2 blocks to the park.

The neighborhood still has no sidewalks, but I see speed bumps and "Slow down - watch for children signs", so seems that kids do still walk on the roadway and parents are worried for their safety.

I rode the school bus to school because the school was way too far to walk -- it wasn't until I was an adult that I realized that the school was only about half a mile away, but with no sidewalks, it wasn't realistically walkable despite the short distance. We spent more time waiting for the bus every morning than it would have taken to walk there.

At the time it seemed completely normal - why would anyone walk when they could drive!? But now I pay attention to walkability and bikeability and avoid driving when I can. (not just because it's good for the environment, but it's good for me too)

Re:Oslo had 0 pedestrian, 0 cyclist, 0 children and 1 driver... by magduf on Friday January 03, 2020 @11:05AM (#21947062)
I used to live about 1 mile from my middle and high schools. There was a bus that most kids in my subdivision used, and I used it for a while, but eventually I realized that it took about as long to ride the bus to school as it did to just walk (I think I was actually slightly faster walking), and after getting tired of the nasty kids on the bus I just walked every day. Sometimes people driving in the morning felt sorry for me and gave me a ride.

However, one thing I do remember was that there were absolutely no sidewalks, so for a lot of people it probably didn't seem walkable.

Re:Oslo had 0 pedestrian, 0 cyclist, 0 children and 1 driver... by bluGill on Friday January 03, 2020 @08:02AM (#21945503)
One advantage of suburbs is there is so little traffic you can let your kids play in the street.
Re:Oslo had 0 pedestrian, 0 cyclist, 0 children and 1 driver... by Johnny555 on Friday January 03, 2020 @03:48PM (#21950177)
My old neighborhood used to be like that - but based on the speed bumps and "Slow down" signs (both official signs and signs that parents put up) that I see in that neighborhood, the traffic has increased (looks like they filled in some former farmland with apartment buildings near the back of the development), and now it's less safe for children to play or walk in the street.
Re:Oslo had 0 pedestrian, 0 cyclist, 0 children and 1 driver... by amanaplanacanal on Friday January 03, 2020 @03:34PM (#21950029)
There are city centers like that too, it’s not an exclusive property of suburbs.