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A comment on Xiaomi camera playing on Google home hub sends stills from other people's homes. Parent comment

Re:Xiaomi camera playing on Google home hub sends stills fro... by CamperBob2 on Thursday January 02, 2020 @02:57PM (#21939128)
"Public" is a thing distinct from "private." On your property, you get to decide where the dividing line is. That's one of the primary ideas behind the notion of private property.

The issue I have is when the property owner isn't told who has access to the resulting still images or video stream, or is actively deceived about it. I'd be reluctant to use a Ring camera at my front door for that reason, and there's no way on Earth I'd install anything like that inside my home.

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Re:Xiaomi camera playing on Google home hub sends stills fro... by lm28469 on Thursday January 02, 2020 @04:53PM (#21940318)
I'm pretty sure a lot, if not most, door cameras are filming public space.
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Re:Xiaomi camera playing on Google home hub sends stills fro... by CamperBob2 on Thursday January 02, 2020 @06:32PM (#21941158)
Yes, that's my point. I have a right to do that, and so do you, and so do Amazon, Google, and the CIA.

See, that's the idea behind the word "public." Nobody has to ask user lm28469 on Hacker News for permission to take photos in public.

This is a good thing.

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Re:Xiaomi camera playing on Google home hub sends stills fro... by distances on Thursday January 02, 2020 @09:33PM (#21942540)
Depends on jurisdiction. Dash cams are illegal in many countries.
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Re:Xiaomi camera playing on Google home hub sends stills fro... by CamperBob2 on Saturday January 04, 2020 @05:40PM (#21958127)
True, only the police are allowed to run dash cams in those countries. We could also mention the trend toward berserk copyright laws that have much the same effect. [1]

And these are not good things. Both communal and private interests end up worse off in the long run with laws like these.

1: https://www.asmp.org/copyright-tutorial/photos-public-buildi...

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Re:Xiaomi camera playing on Google home hub sends stills fro... by clairity on Thursday January 02, 2020 @06:17PM (#21941025)
you'd have gotten a lot more agreement if you had explicitly limited your argument to recording only your own private property, by placement or otherwise.

most folks (especially us americans) accept personal propertly rights implicitly, so there's no need to vigorously defend them, especially when that defense implies caring only about yourself and not others.

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