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Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by LeftHandPath on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @04:20PM (#21930739)
A lot of the article seems to be based on liberal ideals, which include a less prominent America, the promotion of Veganism, and embracing the fall of the West. For the most part, the author’s expectations about crypto are mistaken in that they assume financiers in the west trust China enough to buy into its digital currency. We are bordering on a Cold War; we aren’t about to trust them to keep their promises on crypto.

I think a more moderate take would be suggesting a straddle of the EU - either it strangles itself with clunky bureaucracy, or it becomes more closely unified and a world power in the likes of the US, Russia, or China.

Furthermore, I think we could see the United States grow with the additions of Guam, Puerto Rico, and/or Greenland.

Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by Fauntleroy on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @04:41PM (#21930884)
In theory the US could add Guam and Puerto Rico... but how would that ever be politically viable? There's no way this is going to happen if one party in a two party system knows it will lead to their doom.
Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by burfog on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @05:53PM (#21931319)
Add two at once. Possibilities include creating West California, West Washington, South Virginia, and South Illinois.
Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by bobthepanda on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @07:22PM (#21931844)
That works for balancing the Senate, but not really the House.

Adding PR to the House would significantly reduce the odds of a Republican House given that the current GOP makes a lot of noises that often seem like they're racist against Hispanics.

Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by asveikau on Thursday January 02, 2020 @01:01AM (#21933326)
I don't know what "adding Guam and Puerto Rico" means when they are already US territories. Your comment seems to imply that this means statehood, i.e. addition of senators and voting representatives. But the parent throws them in with Greenland, which is not a US territory.
Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by ianai on Thursday January 02, 2020 @02:12AM (#21933547)
Pretty sure only trump has ever seriously posited adding Greenland to the US. I’d love for a source of that idea though.
Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by fiestaman on Thursday January 02, 2020 @03:00AM (#21933688)
Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by kelnos on Thursday January 02, 2020 @04:03PM (#21939790)
IIRC the US tried to purchase Greenland after WWII, but Denmark declined back then as well.
Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by thatcat on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @09:15PM (#21932429)
Isn't the point of the electoral college that they can and are reassigned Isn't the point of the electoral college that they can and are reassigned values for each territory periodically? periodically?
Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by thesquib on Thursday January 02, 2020 @12:20AM (#21933210)
I think the article is based on current trends, not on US politics.
Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by wavefunction on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @07:23PM (#21931850)
I downvoted your for "liberal ideals" when the rest of your post reads like a flimsy cliche of a "non-liberal."
Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by elfexec on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @06:25PM (#21931520)
> A lot of the article seems to be based on liberal ideals

Not liberal ideals. Globalist neoliberal ideals.

> which include a less prominent America, the promotion of Veganism, and embracing the fall of the West.

These aren't liberal ideals. They are globalist neoliberal ideals. Anti-human, anti-american and pro-globalist financiers.

> or it becomes more closely unified and a world power in the likes of the US, Russia, or China.

Simply will never happen as neither the US nor Russia would support this. Only china currently seems to want closer EU integration purely for economic/market purposes. Power is a zero sum game. The biggest loser in the rise of EU would be the US. Having europe turn from a "vassal" to a competitor would represent a significant loss of power for the US.

> Furthermore, I think we could see the United States grow with the additions of Guam, Puerto Rico, and/or Greenland.

Guam and Puerto Rico are already part of the US. I think we should work with native greenlanders directly and have greenland become part of the US. Perhaps a large cash payment for each true native inuit greenlander ( not danish/european/etc settlers in greenland ) and a percentage of greenland's productive output for 100 or 200 years? Seems like something should have been worked out with the native greenlanders a long time.

Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by cyphar on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @06:42PM (#21931643)
> Not liberal ideals. Globalist neoliberal ideals.

"Neoliberal" refers to Clinton-style ("third way") liberal politicians. I don't know who you're using it to refer to.

> Having europe turn from a "vassal" to a competitor would represent a significant loss of power for the US.

You forgot to include why you think that's a bad thing.

> Guam and Puerto Rico are already part of the US.

But they can't vote and have no (useful) representation in Congress. Citizens of Guam and Puerto Rico are treated as second class citizens ("US Nationals", not "US Citizens").

Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by asveikau on Thursday January 02, 2020 @12:42PM (#21937643)
>> Guam and Puerto Rico are already part of the US.

> But they can't vote and have no (useful) representation in Congress. Citizens of Guam and Puerto Rico are treated as second class citizens ("US Nationals", not "US Citizens").

It's a similar situation in Washington DC. DC residents were given a few electoral college votes, I believe that was put into effect only relatively recently in the 1960s. They have no vote in the US house and no senators.

Re:What Will Happen in the 2020s by elfexec on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @07:09PM (#21931781)
> "Neoliberal" refers to Clinton-style ("third way") liberal politicians. I don't know who you're using it to refer to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

> You forgot to include why you think that's a bad thing.

What? I'm just pointing out why the US would be against a EU competitor? Perhaps you need to reread what I wrote and the comment I was responding to. I think "globalist neoliberal" triggered something that made you see things that aren't there.

> But they can't vote and have no (useful) representation in Congress.

All I said was that they are part of the US.

> Citizens of Guam and Puerto Rico are treated as second class citizens ("US Nationals", not "US Citizens").

Sure. But they are still part of the US. I was responding to " Furthermore, I think we could see the United States grow with the additions of Guam, Puerto Rico, and/or Greenland." Blacks and women couldn't vote in NY and the US for a long time. Doesn't mean NY wasn't a part of the US or the US existed.

I think "globalist neoliberal" really got you reading into things. I made specific replies to specific comments. Which you completely ignored.