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Re:The old internet died and we watched and did nothing by iso1210 on Tuesday December 31, 2019 @12:35PM (#21922767)
> IRC survived because it was too niche for spammers to target much but spam is the primary thing that killed Usenet and email as a truly open system.

A year or so freenode was hit by spam, and now everyone needs to verify, so spam still exists, as does IRC.

Even as late as 2000, usenet survived spam, conversations continued, and spam in email was far worse. Spam in email went the way of the dodo around mid-to-late 00s, with the centralisation of the providers (gmail, yahoo, hotmail)

Re:The old internet died and we watched and did nothing by zzo38computer on Tuesday December 31, 2019 @12:37PM (#21922789)
I run my own email server, and use a separate address per correspondent. This avoids spam entirely. I have sometimes got some spam from some addresses but simply disable that address and then the problem is gone.
Re:The old internet died and we watched and did nothing by api on Tuesday December 31, 2019 @01:57PM (#21923469)
That's too much time and work for 99% of users, even tech-savvy ones.

Think of it this way: lets say you value your time at $50/hour (very conservative for a tech-savvy person). If it takes an hour a month to admin that box, that's a $50/month e-mail service you have not including VPS/VM cost.

Re:The old internet died and we watched and did nothing by zzo38computer on Tuesday December 31, 2019 @02:21PM (#21923739)
Yes, although I am not asking everyone to do it. I am only saying I do it. It is the same protocol as everyone else's email, I just set it up my own way. Other people who like to do can try this too, but I am not trying to ask everyone to do who does not want to do.
Re:The old internet died and we watched and did nothing by MandieD on Tuesday December 31, 2019 @08:03PM (#21925908)
I’ve found FastMail to be my happy medium: I can give out arbitrary aliases over a couple of domains, and only have to do the config once per domain, but they take care of the actual email server part. I can then later add mailbox rules for aliases I give important senders.

Granted, the domain config would be overwhelming for my friends and family not involved in IT - even my mechanical engineer husband doesn’t quite understand what I’m doing.

Re:The old internet died and we watched and did nothing by iso1210 on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @03:24PM (#21930355)
Do you accept wildcards, or create a new alias in advance every time? I used to accept wildcards around turn of millenium but spam was overwhelming.

How do you stop "mainstream" providers from sending your emails to spam?

Re:The old internet died and we watched and did nothing by zzo38computer on Thursday January 02, 2020 @03:52AM (#21933875)
I do not accept (and never have accepted) wildcards. I create a new alias in advance every time.

I use the ISP's server for sending, and use my own server for receiving (the menu for install Exim has a "smart host" option which does this).