Re:Fake “like” factories – how we reverse engineered faceboo...
by mirekrusin on Monday December 30, 2019 @05:44PM
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I don’t buy it, we’re building ai that can drive, classify scans better than professional doctors, translate - but we can’t figure out fake accounts? Come on.
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Re:Fake “like” factories – how we reverse engineered faceboo...
by braythwayt on Monday December 30, 2019 @08:45PM
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Driving, diagnosing, and translating are not good comparisons, because none of those are adversarial.
The problem here is that adversaries are adjusting to whatever measures are put in place. In that respect it might be more like winning at Chess or Go. Which computers can do, but it’s decidedly non-trivial.
And here’s the kicker: If we postulate some hand-wavium big-data/machine-learning/AI that can detect bots and adjust when the bots evolve, why can’t we also postulate some hand-wavium big-data/machine-learning/AI that can run bots and evade the bot detection?
Re:Fake “like” factories – how we reverse engineered faceboo...
by nradov on Tuesday December 31, 2019 @12:11AM
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Driving often is adversarial, and no AI can actually drive yet (outside of some very limited circumstances on a small number of roads).
Re:Fake “like” factories – how we reverse engineered faceboo...
by mr__y on Monday December 30, 2019 @07:06PM
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It's probably not that they can't classify fake accounts but that doing so at a scale requires too large resources and it's more economical to employ only simpler techniques that weed out most of the bots and live with the remaining few.
Then if they also happen to anyhow benefit from the existence of those fake accounts then it becomes even harder to justify costly filters and leads to a sufficient-enough-to-not-look-obviously-weak grade filtering