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Re:Debian votes for Proposal B, “Systemd but we support expl... by chongli on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:56PM (#21900420)
The problem isn't the common name, it's the tight coupling between components. This is antithetical to the Linux philosophy, which emphasizes modularity, interchangeability, and configurability.
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Re:Debian votes for Proposal B, “Systemd but we support expl... by cycloptic on Saturday December 28, 2019 @01:39PM (#21900732)
That is not the Linux philosophy. According to a usenet post made by Linus Torvalds in 1996 [0], the Linux philosophy is "Do it yourself."

[0] https://groups.google.com/groups?&selm=Pine.LNX.3.91.9610161...

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Re:Debian votes for Proposal B, “Systemd but we support expl... by zzo38computer on Saturday December 28, 2019 @01:43PM (#21900764)
When you wish to cite Usenet articles, please cite the message ID.

(I also think that those who use mailing lists should just use NNTP instead, possibly having NNTP as an alternative interface to the same data.)

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Re:Debian votes for Proposal B, “Systemd but we support expl... by teddyh on Friday January 03, 2020 @07:47PM (#21951909)
In this case, the Message-ID seems to be <[email protected]>.
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Re:Debian votes for Proposal B, “Systemd but we support expl... by thenewnewguy on Saturday December 28, 2019 @02:13PM (#21901000)
I assume you mean the UNIX philosophy? Regardless, almost all of said components are optional, systemd doesn't in any way force you to use them. As a matter of fact many of the components you listed have alternatives that are more popular than the systemd tool (NetworkManager over systemd-networkd, GRUB2 over systemd-boot, etc).
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Re:Debian votes for Proposal B, “Systemd but we support expl... by despera on Saturday December 28, 2019 @04:17PM (#21901788)
Most yes, not all of them. For example logind. Is there any reason why this should be coupled with systemd? Apparently not as has been proved by elogind project.
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