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Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by jpz on Saturday December 28, 2019 @09:18AM (#21899003)
He had a fair trial for the crime of jumping bail, and has been jailed for it.
Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by nicehat on Saturday December 28, 2019 @10:01AM (#21899208)
How exactly did you come to the conclusion that his trial was fair? The only coverage I've seen of the trial, which has been remarkably quiet, alleges extreme US interference: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-c...

Jullian's father is going around the world telling people how brutally corrupt this all is, and how he fears for his son's life. The UN Special Rapporteur on Torture agrees with him: https://medium.com/@njmelzer/demasking-the-torture-of-julian....

Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by multjoy on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:19AM (#21899667)
Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by spzb on Saturday December 28, 2019 @10:12AM (#21899253)
It was an open and shut case. He was bailed to appear in court. He didn’t appear in court but hid for several years out of the court’s jurisdiction.
Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by NovemberWhiskey on Saturday December 28, 2019 @10:19AM (#21899298)
The top link, which is the only one that addresses court proceedings, is nothing to do with his bail jumping case at all - it's about the US extradition. Just from a timeline perspective this is obvious: his conviction was back in May; this article is from October.
Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by nicehat on Saturday December 28, 2019 @10:36AM (#21899394)
The US extradition which was categorically denied for years? Ah, I see.

> The UK remains in violation of a United Nations decision from 2016 that Mr. Assange is being subjected to Arbitrary Detention [1]. The UK government refuses to release most of its internal communications relating to Mr. Assange saying that to do so would compromise the United Kingdom’s national security and diplomatic relations.

[1] https://justice4assange.com/UN-Working-Group-Decision.html

Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by NovemberWhiskey on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:35AM (#21899791)
>The US extradition which was categorically denied for years? Ah, I see.

Should we assume from the sudden change in topic that you now agree that the trial for an offense under the UK's Bail Act was, in fact, fair (or at the very least that there doesn't seem to be any evidence to the contrary)?

FYI UNGWAD is not a judicial body; its opinions (not decisions) have no binding force whatsoever.

Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by nicehat on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:52AM (#21899932)
Why on earth would I assume that one trial was fair, when the other was extraordinarily suspect?

Why would I assume it's fair when he's already been tortured for years by solitary confinement, and often refused access to counsel? Not to mention, had spurious cases taken against him; and multiple, provably false, coordinated and widespread media smears in the UK and US?

FYI, I never claimed anything about binding force - but if the UN's top torture opinion guy says Assange is being tortured, and his dad says he's being tortured, and he looks like a man slowly dying every time he's allowed out to speak, which is basically never - I'm more than a little suspicious.

Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by foldr on Saturday December 28, 2019 @01:21PM (#21900618)
It was a public trial, so you don't have to "assume" anything about how fair it was. In any case, it would be absurd to suggest that he wasn't guilty of skipping bail, so it's difficult to see how there could have been anything significantly unfair about the trial.
Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by sp332 on Saturday December 28, 2019 @09:29AM (#21899062)
Ok but he was not sentenced to this.
Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by rbobby on Saturday December 28, 2019 @10:01AM (#21899211)
Assange doesn't qualify for bail (he is a flight risk/certainty) so he stays in custody until the hearings are done.

Made his bed and now has to lie in it.

Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by einpoklum on Saturday December 28, 2019 @03:33PM (#21901532)
Bail? For what? He has not committed any offense for which he should be held in custody under UK law. And the extradition should not have been considered, since the UK official doesn't extradite for charges of political offenses.
Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by Synaesthesia on Saturday December 28, 2019 @10:26AM (#21899334)
He reported the truth. It’s an extraordinary trial this.
Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by rbobby on Saturday December 28, 2019 @10:53AM (#21899480)
> He reported the truth. It’s an extraordinary trial this.

It's extradition hearings not a trail. Extraditions are pretty common, the statistics I found seem to indicate roughly 1,000 requests per year with about 50% being successful (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...)

Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by nicehat on Saturday December 28, 2019 @10:14AM (#21899267)
Literally torturing him to a slow death, after doing their utmost to smear his reputation, and a decade of separating him from his family.

Then there's the mysterious disappearing of his friends, and presidential candidates laughing about droning him.

It sure would be nice to see the tech community challenge the worst of the disinfo and rally behind truth.

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Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by AtlasBarfed on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:53PM (#21900399)
"Russian asset"

That's your definition. He would probably argue "enemy of my enemy is my friend".

But by using the language of the military industrial powers that be, you are engaging in doublespeak.

Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by nicehat on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:41AM (#21899838)
The information is all out there. Books have been written about it, and you are welcome to read them.

By the way, I've posted 3 substantive links in this very comment chain, and if there's ever been a single shred of evidence to support the claim that Assange is an asset, I've never seen it. You know that claim by the Guardian was shown to be a flat lie, right?

Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by tehjoker on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:44AM (#21899874)
I wish these paranoid conspiracies about Russia would die. Even if he got info from Russia, so what? Nation states publishing derogatory information on each other is great for the people so we can know what the hell our government is actually doing.
Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by chillwaves on Saturday December 28, 2019 @03:22PM (#21901480)
1. the information was doctored. 2. he selectively withholds information that is damaging to Russia, therefore is picking sides.

Wikileaks was a state actor, not a journalism.

Re:Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belm... by AtlasBarfed on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:54PM (#21900412)
No one complains about the Turkish information dumps. What "asset" portfolio did he belong to there?