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Re:Sonos's “recycle mode” intentionally bricks devices so th... by zxcb1 on Friday December 27, 2019 @09:21PM (#21896614)
Yes. It is painful to realize that Apple has turned into that. My reference example is a Mac Mini and MacBook Pro which I bought around 2012. Both still work, and are upgraded with dual SSD and 16GB RAM. It is, however, not possible to upgrade or even reinstall the OS. Linux is now the only option, which without they would be useless.

With my latest MacBook Pro, I already know that there are no upgrades, the keyboard is almost broken, and that its lifetime is determined through policy. Question is; will it be the hardware or software which determines end of life?

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Re:Sonos's “recycle mode” intentionally bricks devices so th... by zootam on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:48PM (#21900361)
What do you mean not possible to reinstall the OS?

They don't make it easy, but you can download older OSX images from apple's servers (Sierra, Yosemite, etc..) and install them with some effort.

Not impossible.

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Re:Sonos's “recycle mode” intentionally bricks devices so th... by Hackbraten on Friday December 27, 2019 @11:49PM (#21897162)
> It is, however, not possible to upgrade or even reinstall the OS.

I don’t feel it’s fair to expect a vendor to actively develop major feature upgrades for a seven-year-old computer.

What keeps you from downloading and installing macOS High Sierra or Mojave on your 2012 hardware? Both versions still receive security updates, don’t they?

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Re:Sonos's “recycle mode” intentionally bricks devices so th... by ClumsyPilot on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:34AM (#21897335)
Why not? I can install latest windows 10 or ubuntu on my laptop from 2005.
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Re:Sonos's “recycle mode” intentionally bricks devices so th... by zxcb1 on Saturday December 28, 2019 @01:35AM (#21897526)
Not according to my experience. Regardless, it is a matter of philosophy behind the product. And it is now quite different from before. I will probably find a balanced combination of Apple products and open hardware + software that fits my needs.
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Re:Sonos's “recycle mode” intentionally bricks devices so th... by asdff on Saturday December 28, 2019 @03:32AM (#21897853)
The 2012 can even install catalina.
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