Re:Washington’s new anti-robocall law won’t stop the calls
by nahikoa on Thursday December 26, 2019 @03:05PM
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Do you see any/some/most/all carriers implementing STIR/SHAKEN for termination soon?
Re:Washington’s new anti-robocall law won’t stop the calls
by mehhh on Thursday December 26, 2019 @03:25PM
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As someone who works with multiple carriers, I doubt anyone outside of the wireless carriers and Inteliquent will implement STIR/SHAKEN soon in the USA.
Inteliquent (aka Neutral Tandem, Onvoy, Exiant, Vitelity, plus 20 other sub-brands) is the only provider implementing this protocol outside the cellular industry, and most of the CLECs they work with are not capable of maintaining SIP with a TLS certificate, let alone their own PKI as STIR/SHAKEN would entail.
Re:Washington’s new anti-robocall law won’t stop the calls
by yellow_lead on Thursday December 26, 2019 @04:42PM
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Yeah, it's mostly wireless carriers at least for now. Already T-Mobile and I think ATT are rolling this out to consumers, called Certified Caller ID I think. However, the FCC is coming down hard on all carriers for this. I don't know if there's any fines for not having it implemented, but I know Chairman Pai said he expected it to be implemented this year. Obviously, telecom moves slow and it's not possible for all carriers. Even some SBCs I'm sure don't support it (specialized call handling hardware). It will be interesting what kind of legal requirements they put in place with regards to this. I think they will try to strong arm all carriers soon.
Re:Washington’s new anti-robocall law won’t stop the calls
by Mountain_Skies on Thursday December 26, 2019 @06:09PM
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I might be mistaken but I believe Windstream, a rural legacy carrier, is planning to implement STIR/SHAKEN.
Re:Washington’s new anti-robocall law won’t stop the calls
by mehrdadn on Thursday December 26, 2019 @06:43PM
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Do you know how this will actually solve the problem? Like will they actually let customers block calls without the desired level of attestation?
Re:Washington’s new anti-robocall law won’t stop the calls
by yellow_lead on Friday December 27, 2019 @01:50AM
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On cellphones, no/C attestation can show up with "suspected spam". I believe T-Mobile does this today somehow, possibly a line under the caller ID.
Whether or not it's a premium service will probably depend on the carrier.
As for your original question (blocking), I'm not sure. It's certainly in the realm of possibilities and carriers' fraud departments will have to decide what to do with it.
A = I know the customer, they own this number.
B = I know the customer, can't confirm they own this number.
C = I'm sending this call out, but I know nothing of the customer or this number.
Carriers sometimes don't want to receive anything other than A, because its probably useless to them. By that I mean, if it's not A, they don't want to be sent the attestation level or identity header at all.