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Re:Hepatitis C kills more Americans than all other infectiou... by ameister14 on Thursday December 26, 2019 @09:09AM (#21883863)
Most Americans wouldn't end up paying the 84k. Their insurance would pay for most of that, and negotiate it down further - the other day I was picking up a drug that without insurance would cost over $1,000. I paid $34.
Re:Hepatitis C kills more Americans than all other infectiou... by dpark on Thursday December 26, 2019 @09:21AM (#21883944)
That’s garbage. People without insurance are utterly fucked. The uninsured are sacrificed as a negotiating point against insurers. “List price is $5000. We’ll cut you a deal at only $2000!”
Re:Hepatitis C kills more Americans than all other infectiou... by ameister14 on Thursday December 26, 2019 @09:33AM (#21884021)
Yep, that's all true. It's worse, actually - the government sets reimbursement rates as well, so when they tell a hospital 'we are only going to pay you 60% of what you charge' what do you think a hospital is going to do in response?
Re:Hepatitis C kills more Americans than all other infectiou... by sp332 on Thursday December 26, 2019 @10:44AM (#21884546)
This is a valid thing to be concerned about, but it appears to be false. Gilead has programs that help uninsured people get their drugs, including Harvoni. https://www.gilead.com/purpose/medication-access/us-patient-...
Re:Hepatitis C kills more Americans than all other infectiou... by Cyph0n on Thursday December 26, 2019 @09:36AM (#21884047)
It depends on your plan. If you’re on a HDHP, chances are that prescriptions are not covered until you hit your deductible.
Re:Hepatitis C kills more Americans than all other infectiou... by ameister14 on Thursday December 26, 2019 @09:44AM (#21884107)
Even if that's the case, unless your deductible is $40k, which I have never seen before, the insurance would still cover the majority of the cost. Plus if you have chronic Hep C, you're likely spending thousands a year as it is and will continue to do so indefinitely.
Re:Hepatitis C kills more Americans than all other infectiou... by lotsofpulp on Thursday December 26, 2019 @10:00AM (#21884224)
Out of pocket maximum is the relevant figure, and that's $8k for individuals and $16k for families:

https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/out-of-pocket-maximum-li...

Re:Hepatitis C kills more Americans than all other infectiou... by thedaemon on Thursday December 26, 2019 @10:15AM (#21884312)
Insurance is something you pay on all year long, you will eventually pay the 84k and more.
Re:Hepatitis C kills more Americans than all other infectiou... by ameister14 on Thursday December 26, 2019 @10:27AM (#21884393)
sure - let's say you pay your own insurance, which most people do not do - let's also say you pay an average of $5,500 a year for it, and have insurance from age 26 to 72 - that's 46 years. So you have now spent $253,000 over your lifetime, which is definitely above the 84k.

If you only have one disease or hospitalization in your life, however, you're rare - this is also extremely unlikely given your chronic Hep C. As an example, the average cost per person in the US, including healthy people, is $10,000 a year, 4,500 more than your insurance cost.

Re:Hepatitis C kills more Americans than all other infectiou... by pc86 on Thursday December 26, 2019 @10:34AM (#21884457)
In all health insurance, the healthy are subsidizing the sick. If you have Hep C you are costing your insurer a lot more than you're paying them. If you're a very healthy individual and rarely have any issues, you're overpaying by a lot.