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Re:Colleges are turning students’ phones into surveillance m... by dragonwriter on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @10:28PM (#21881866)
> Caltech can afford to treat their students like adults, because they're picked from the cream of the crop.

The cream in terms of demonstrated capacity for academic performance, which probably has very little correlation to readiness to be treated as an adult. There selection criteria is why they can afford to have rigorous coursework as the basic freshman core, but not why their decision to treat the young adults attending as adults works.

If anything, that policy is part of the selection system: the people that aren't ready for that treatment don't cause problems for other people as much as they would in other systems, they just fail out fairly quickly.

Re:Colleges are turning students’ phones into surveillance m... by pickdenis on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @10:39PM (#21881890)
> has very little correlation to readiness to be treated as an adult

My words may have been misleading. What I'm trying to say is the kind of student that gets admission to Caltech is not the kind of student to neglect going to class out of laziness or whatever and fail out because of that.

Re:Colleges are turning students’ phones into surveillance m... by WalterBright on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @11:53PM (#21882090)
> is not the kind of student to neglect going to class out of laziness or whatever and fail out because of that.

Well, I was. I tried repeatedly to skip class and still pass. It did not work. The low point was finals week, first semester, sophomore year. I was looking at flunking out. I had serious pain in my gut from stress.

I squeaked by.

That was it for me. I decided that I was never again going to miss a lecture, always take notes properly, never again skip homework (doing homework was not required), and I would master every single homework problem on time.

That worked for me. I started getting B's, eventually turning into A's.