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Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by dang on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @07:28PM (#21875886)
We've banned your accounts in this thread. Please don't create accounts to break HN's guidelines with; it eventually gets your main account banned as well.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Also, please don't create accounts for every few comments you post. We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site guidelines too.

HN is a community. Users needn't use their real name, but do need some identity for others to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by 20160216 on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @10:11PM (#21876512)
You want HN to ge a community, start obeying the rules yourself.

HN is not a community, it’s a cargo cult where only certain thoughts are allowed and you ban people who think differently, no matter how well they present their argument or how polite they are.

Further, you engage in ad hominem and dishonest attacks, make calling and violation of every other rule in your rule book you capriciously enforce against everyone else.

Because of this, you have no standing to expect anyone to ever respect your rules.

This is why this site is considered a joke to the rest of the world and the tech community.

It’s the epitome of Bay Area smelling-ones-own-farts, and you’re oblivious.

Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by jvanderbot on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @02:01PM (#21874162)
You need to seperate publicity statements or interview answers from technical contributions. They are so incompatible as to be meaningless comparisons and are intended for totally different uses. I doubt he or any senior engineer at any company would make a statement like that in a design discussion or product review, but they'd all turn around wave hands at the future like that over beers with a journalist.
Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by lepoint on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @02:58PM (#21880137)
What is the point of your justification? That it's ok to spout nonsense during interviews? If so that's a weird position to take.
Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by jvanderbot on Friday December 27, 2019 @10:20PM (#21896836)
Alright, I'll condense: High level statements about vague possibilities are perfectly fine in some settings, but not in otheres. They sure smell like bullshit in a highly technical setting, or to people who always take the most technical angle.
Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by fizx on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @02:02PM (#21874167)
You don't get to lead thousands of people by making publicly offensive statements, even accidentally. So yes, that does lead to more boring answers to newspapers.

Politicians don't swear in public, but they sure do in private. I'm sure a smaller conversation with Jeff would be fascinating.

Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by justinclift on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @01:51AM (#21877299)
> You don't get to lead thousands of people by making publicly offensive statements ...

That's not correct. There are (current) examples of people leading thousands (or more) people by making publicly offensive statements.

It's just the statements are polarising (on purpose), to create feelings of inclusion among the supporters + and blame [social problems?] on the people being pointed at.

Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by packetslave on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @02:31PM (#21874341)
If you're going to be an edgelord and call Jeff Dean an "idiot", have the guts not to do it on a throwaway account.
Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by otabdeveloper2 on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @03:45PM (#21874789)
Why? So you can tar, feather and throw him into the fire for crimethink?
Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by strbean on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @02:04PM (#21874180)
TIL filling time in an interview instead of being as concise as possible makes you an idiot. I thought it was just called 'being a good interview subject'.
Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by tedunangst on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @01:58PM (#21874142)
Does that retroactively make protobuffers stupid too?
Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by mironic on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @02:55PM (#21874477)
It doesn't but I don't get why saying someone is smart makes their work better when smart people obviously make stupid decisions and give stupid answers. I've used protobuffs, they're fine. I was riffing on Kenton's justification.
Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by kentonv on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @03:48PM (#21874813)
My only point was that it's absurd to call them "amateurs", and that the author damages his own credibility by doing so.
Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by lobo_tuerto on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @03:47PM (#21874805)
Because being smart is related to making less stupid decisions? Think about it in terms of probability.

Smarter -> less probability of making stupid decisions and giving stupid answers.

Dumber -> more probability of making stupid decisions and giving stupid answers.

Re:Protobuffers Are Wrong by bradhe on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @01:55PM (#21874120)
That's like 100 words to say "Yes."