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Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by zentiggr on Monday December 23, 2019 @01:27AM (#21861846)
Wow, that's seriously dysfunctional. I get that Apple doesn't do UX testing but maybe they could do some UX testing?

Getting at least one user's opinion about a redesign might have nipped some of this in the bud

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Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by Razengan on Monday December 23, 2019 @09:15AM (#21863686)
THIS right there is what seems to be the core issue at Apple these days:

It doesn't feel like they have anyone who uses their own products anymore (dogfooding.)

The one thing about Steve Jobs was that he was a user like us, sharing most of the same annoyances and frustrations and in a position to make the engineers do something about them.

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Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by riffraff on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:16AM (#21864075)
on the contrary, to me it feels like they have people who only use the latest product, and know it 100%. So when something new comes along, nobody is confused.

Just all of us who don't live at apple 24/7.

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Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by domador on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:52AM (#21864372)
The following, classic comic speaks more to Windows-style UI pathologies, but it seems appropriate here as well:

http://okcancel.com/comic/4.html

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Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by domador on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:49AM (#21864343)
You got that right! I'm all for dogfooding, but at some point, it can turn into kool-aiding, if you don't take a look at how people out on the street are actually using your products (or trying to.)
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Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by OGWhales on Monday December 23, 2019 @08:16AM (#21863387)
Yeah I think exactly one would be enough lol
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