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Re:CDC Confirms a THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is Culpri... by pdonis on Friday December 20, 2019 @11:52PM (#21849695)
> there's still zero indication that vaping is harmful, so at the very least it's not as bad as smoking since it's been around for a decade at least now and nothing obvious has come up

Do you know how long smoking was around before we had actual evidence that it was harmful?

(Hint: The rough order of magnitude of the time is centuries.)

Re:CDC Confirms a THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is Culpri... by allovernow on Saturday December 21, 2019 @12:47AM (#21849853)
Modern medical care has advanced exponentially in the last 100 years. There weren't regular, organized, multithousand data point case studies back then.
Re:CDC Confirms a THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is Culpri... by pdonis on Saturday December 21, 2019 @01:42AM (#21849995)
> There weren't regular, organized, multithousand data point case studies back then.

Case studies can't spot harm faster than the harm occurs. The main harm from smoking is a significantly increased risk of lung cancer and other illnesses which can take decades to show up. That's why even with modern medicine advancing over the last century it took so long to nail down the health risks of smoking.

Re:CDC Confirms a THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is Culpri... by schrodinger on Saturday December 21, 2019 @12:18AM (#21849770)
To be fair we’re much better at evaluating these things now.
Re:CDC Confirms a THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is Culpri... by TheCoelacanth on Saturday December 21, 2019 @01:44PM (#21852653)
How long did it take for us to figure out that washing your hands was beneficial?
Re:CDC Confirms a THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is Culpri... by quickthrowman on Saturday December 21, 2019 @01:12AM (#21849920)
Other commenters already pointed out that we didn’t have modern laboratory science when tobacco was brought over to Europe, not to mention that mechanized cigarette production is a much more recent development that the use of tobacco by western cultures.

I used to smoke, and now I vape. My lungs function so much better now that it’s easily discernible to me that smoking irritates lungs far more than vaping.

Re:CDC Confirms a THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is Culpri... by tempestn on Saturday December 21, 2019 @01:41AM (#21849989)
I think it's pretty unquestionable that smoking is worse for the lungs, and almost certainly worse overall than vaping. But smoking was on the decline; if vaping had never existed or gone mainstream, eventually very few people would have smoked. Instead now, there are many young people becoming addicted to nicotine via vaping. That's almost certainly better than if they were smoking instead, but it's likely worse than if they weren't using a nicotine product at all.

Now, you could argue that there's little evidence of nicotine being harmful aside from being highly addictive (although even then there would be an economic argument to be made), but if there is any harm, the addictive nature will make sure that harm is long-lasting.

Re:CDC Confirms a THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is Culpri... by pdonis on Saturday December 21, 2019 @01:40AM (#21849988)
> we didn’t have modern laboratory science when tobacco was brought over to Europe

Modern laboratory science is no help in figuring out fast whether vaping is harmful, because we don't understand how the human body works well enough to do laboratory tests that will tell us. So we're reduced to basically what we used to show that smoking was harmful: long-term data collection and analysis.

> My lungs function so much better now that it’s easily discernible to me that smoking irritates lungs far more than vaping.

Saying that vaping is less harmful than smoking (which is probably true) is a much weaker statement than saying that there's zero indication that vaping is harmful, so there's no reason to worry about it, which is the claim I was responding to.

Re:CDC Confirms a THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is Culpri... by duud on Saturday December 21, 2019 @03:10AM (#21850272)
My experience is that vaping feels easier on the body than smoking but both cause coughing and congestion. It probably isn't a good idea to inhale large quantities of anything other than oxygen.
Re:CDC Confirms a THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is Culpri... by petre on Saturday December 21, 2019 @07:31AM (#21850954)
You probably mean air. Inhaling pure oxygen is generally bad, sometimes even harmful.