Re:Teaching College-Level Mathematics in Prisons [pdf]
by ddxxdd on Saturday December 21, 2019 @12:37AM
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I remember a common saying that's bandied about Hacker News: a 10x quantitative difference is a qualitative difference.
Well, America's violent crime rate is 10 times higher than Europe's violent crime rate, so make of that what you will.
Re:Teaching College-Level Mathematics in Prisons [pdf]
by flattone on Saturday December 21, 2019 @02:20AM
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Parse attempt: there are too significant systemic, social differences to meaningfully compare process&results between countries.
Re:Teaching College-Level Mathematics in Prisons [pdf]
by maxerickson on Saturday December 21, 2019 @05:41AM
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Half the point is that systemic differences contribute to different outcomes, so lets change the system. What a sad rejoinder to argue that the system is a force of nature.
Re:Teaching College-Level Mathematics in Prisons [pdf]
by mlyle on Saturday December 21, 2019 @11:51AM
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Some bits of the system we can change with effort. Urban poverty, etc, can improve. We can have a better criminal justice system.
Some are cultural bits in subpopulations that are resistant to change; we can work on it, but it's not clear how much of an effect any intervention will have.
There's some other structural ones that will be extremely difficult to change-- we have the some of the most dangerous places in the world next-door in Latin America.
Plenty of societies appear to do much better than the US at preventing recidivism and reforming criminals to productive members of society.