Re:A Data Leak Exposed the Personal Information of over 3k R...
by dylz on Thursday December 19, 2019 @06:21PM
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I really hope physical proximity is also some kind of handshake with the device, and not spoofable in-app "GPS"
Re:A Data Leak Exposed the Personal Information of over 3k R...
by funcDropShadow on Friday December 20, 2019 @02:55AM
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I hope physical proximity does not mean standing in front of the door. Outside.
Re:A Data Leak Exposed the Personal Information of over 3k R...
by jessriedel on Thursday December 19, 2019 @06:55PM
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Under that justification, it would require at a bare minimum giving the reader the proper context, e.g., "similar non-breach threats exists for a large number of common online services, such as [list examples the reader is likely to know]".
Re:A Data Leak Exposed the Personal Information of over 3k R...
by geofft on Friday December 20, 2019 @02:18AM
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Sure, but also, my impression is that similar threats do not exist for e.g. Google (because of heuristics on login attempts, scans on the backend for breached passwords, aggressive and un-silenceable notifications about new logins, a well-staffed security team, etc.). So an accurate statement is that most online services that do not specifically invest in account security are vulnerable.
Then customers can decide whether they want an internet-connected home security system from a company that doesn't invest heavily in account security.
Re:A Data Leak Exposed the Personal Information of over 3k R...
by jessriedel on Friday December 20, 2019 @10:58AM
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Agreed
If a bad thing happens all the time and people are unaware of it, calling attention to it is entirely newsworthy.
To you, as a jaded security person who understands that there are systemic risks to any network-connected service and nobody is good at defending against them, perhaps it's perfectly normal. To a customer who is making the decision between buying a network-connected doorbell for their security and buying a perfectly normal offline doorbell, the fact that credential stuffing happens all the time is a thing they need to hear about!
(Also, there are straightforward ways to resist these attacks, such as "You must use 2FA," "You can only pair a new device with your Ring account while it's in physical proximity to your Ring device," "You must use either 2FA or physical proximity," "The app will generate a password for you and won't let you use an existing one, feel free to write it down on a piece of paper," etc. A home security system should be more paranoid than a politics forum or a meme generator at keeping accounts secure.)