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Re:Change to Chinese university's charter dropping 'freedom ... by some_random on Thursday December 19, 2019 @02:22PM (#21838247)
Come on, do you seriously think that China is looking at student protests in the US and thinking "hmm yes censorship good"? I swear, every single time an article about China doing something contemptible comes up on HN, you idiots come out of the woodwork to assert that the US is doing the same thing and therefore we can't complain.
Re:Change to Chinese university's charter dropping 'freedom ... by superkuh on Thursday December 19, 2019 @02:57PM (#21838578)
No. I don't seriously think China is following the US. They'd do it anyway. But with the US no longer standing as a working example of a country that values free speech there is less need for China to pretend on the world stage to save face and hide their nature. This lack of pretending has become very obvious in China in the last ~5 years. Maybe that's a good thing but the regression in the USA isn't.

Sorry if my original post was a bit glib. The point wasn't to say it's okay for China if the USA does it. My point was that it's an almost universal bad trend in nation states today.

Re:Change to Chinese university's charter dropping 'freedom ... by dsypa on Thursday December 19, 2019 @04:14PM (#21839384)
You could've written the same comment without being so incendiary ;P
Re:Change to Chinese university's charter dropping 'freedom ... by superkuh on Thursday December 19, 2019 @04:16PM (#21839404)
Yep. This was my fault and I apologize.
Re:Change to Chinese university's charter dropping 'freedom ... by natalyarostova on Thursday December 19, 2019 @02:26PM (#21838287)
These people are unable to appreciate the distinction between two things both existing, but of drastically different magnitudes. In their mind simply comparing the existence of two things is sufficient to exclaim some level of equality.
Re:Change to Chinese university's charter dropping 'freedom ... by yahwrong on Thursday December 19, 2019 @02:25PM (#21838282)
> assert that the US is doing the same thing and therefore we can't complain.

Yeah that's the point. normal people don't want to feel like hypocrites and why whataboutism is effective. Narcists don't suffer from this and so are happy to pass blame.

Re:Change to Chinese university's charter dropping 'freedom ... by some_random on Thursday December 19, 2019 @02:27PM (#21838308)
It's not always even whataboutism, I've seen people apologize for IP theft on this site by saying that US industrialists did it two centuries ago.
Re:Change to Chinese university's charter dropping 'freedom ... by gdhbcc on Thursday December 19, 2019 @02:47PM (#21838491)
Thats stupid, there nothing wrong with violating IP laws, regardless of who did it first.
Re:Change to Chinese university's charter dropping 'freedom ... by Jamwinner on Thursday December 19, 2019 @04:08PM (#21839316)
Will future employers google your SN and see this? What would they think? While you may have a solid argument that many IP laws are poorly written, used, and enforced, brazenly dismissing all of them is not a better position, ethically or practically.
Re:Change to Chinese university's charter dropping 'freedom ... by yahwrong on Thursday December 19, 2019 @05:27PM (#21839934)
It absolutely is ethically better and practical though however. IP is just information and information is meant to be free. To restrict it behind artificial pay walls is repugnant.