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Re:Who Was the Buddha? by Iv on Thursday December 19, 2019 @12:30AM (#21832202)
Huh, what are the 4 noble truths if not a doctrine that instructs people to go towards the 8 paths?

And if you chose to dismiss the religious and cultish parts, you can also find a lot of value in Jesus teaching about unconditional love and about inner spiritual discipline.

I have no qualms in people using a cleaned up religion as a source for spiritual growth, and will agree that Buddhism has many features that makes it particularly friendly, like its focus on non-violence, but don't be mistaken in what you are doing in the process. It is still a typical religion that has little inherent reason to be more sensible than any other source. All its advices have to stand on their own merit.

Re:Who Was the Buddha? by brigandish on Thursday December 19, 2019 @01:14AM (#21832418)
> what are the 4 noble truths if not a doctrine that instructs people to go towards the 8 paths?

A doctrine is a belief of set of beliefs, not a set of premises or propositions for investigation nor a set of practices. For example, a hypothesis is not a doctrine, nor is the scientific method. Prince2, PMP, Scrum, Lean, Six Sigma et al are also not doctrines.

The 8-fold path is an alternative breakdown of one of the truths (the last one, presented - as all are - as "truth" because under examination/usage they should be shown to be correct), not separate.

Nowhere within the 4 or the 8 is there any requirement for belief or adherence to any authority in the form of a being or creed.