Vaccination is a form of making them sick to protect them. It gives basically limited case of the disease so the body recognizes it and creates anti-bodies.

I stopped getting annual flu vaccines as an adult. Frequent vaccines are very common for people with cystic fibrosis (which is what I have). People with CF get sicker and sicker until they die. It is a slow, torturous gruesome thing. For me, it became apparent that drugs and vaccines were causing me harm and contributing to my decline. I worked hard to get off the drugs and I stopped getting vaccines. I am drug free. The hole in my lung has closed. I am getting my life back. Doctors told me "People like you don't get well. Symptom management is the name of the game."

For me, there came a point where I had a clear choice between the certain path of doom and the risky path of maybe getting better. I was so miserable, death would have been a welcome alternative to the future ahead of me. I felt it was win/win: Either do something really stupid and die quickly or gradually get better. Both options held more appeal for me than what doctors and all the world were promising me.

I can't recall the last time I had a cold. And I routinely nip infection in the bud when exposed to a sick person at work, without having to rely on antibiotics and other conventional drugs. So while I understand your skepticism and don't really expect to win you over, I'm not going to be won over by your view either.

> Vaccination is a form of making them sick to protect them. It gives basically limited case of the disease so the body recognizes it and creates anti-bodies.

Hardly. Many vaccines are made up of dead virus particles. A dead virus cannot cause disease. It causes an immune response, but immune responses are not diseases.

Tree pollen triggers an immune response in me, but that doesn't mean I'm getting a disease every spring.

I hope you realize that it's possible you've killed someone. Perhaps a 6 month old or a 90 year old who's immune system is too weak to respond appropriately to a flu vaccine, and who die by the thousands every year from the flu.

Because even though you aren't symptomatic from the flu due to a strong immune system, you are still likely a carrier.

The interesting thing is that no one has discussed whether saving people who would die from a disease is good for the herd. By vaccinating everyone, we are holding back the evolution of our species, which in the long term, may end up being worse than letting a few children and non-reproducing old people die.

That is uncivil and inappropriate. You can't just push that on someone you don't even know, who obviously has a serious medical condition that they have had a lot of trouble dealing with. Walk in their shoes before you casually call them a killer.

Sometimes the truth sucks. You don't do anybody and favors by ignoring it though.

The truth can suck -- and also sets you free. I embrace it. It's a big part of how I am getting well. But I am much less of a danger to others these days because I am so much healthier. And other people are still more of a danger to me than I am to them. I still have a compromised immune system. We are all crawling with millions if not billions of microbes. You cannot even digest your food without them. Some microbes that are relatively benign in some populations are very dangerous to others. There are germs that create deadly infections in people with CF that are deemed benign for most normal people.

Peace.

I had a premature daughter, and I react with paternal anger whenever I see anybody threatening the health of my daughter. Do whatever you want to do to protect your own health, but stay away from my daughter.

I'm very sorry about your daughter. And I completely agree that staying away from your daughter is a good idea, for her and for me both. I've been pretty socially isolated while I get well. I hope that changes at some point in the future when this process is completed.

Peace and best wishes.

Good luck with your health. Thank you for your civility.

It's important to point out that not everybody should be vaccinated - in a few cases, such as where your immune system is compromised or you have severe allergies, it's not worth the risk.

That sounds like your case, but bear in mind that you'll be relying on herd immunity, so you should be encouraging people to get vaccinated. If your health is that bad, I doubt you'll be very happy if you do catch something like chickenpox or whooping cough.