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Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by saagarjha on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @02:02PM (#21828059)
Users don't want cookies. It's just that websites have made their tracking apparatus dependent on them, so they force users to accept them if they'd like to access the site.

> Meanwhile - no notice required when your ISP tracks your every move AND is the monopoly provider.

Yeah, no. Nobody likes their ISP, it's just that it's a lot harder to enact change here.

Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by cortesoft on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @02:08PM (#21828133)
I mean, I want cookies on lots of sites... like any one that I login to. How else are they supposed to track access to my account?
Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by saagarjha on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @02:10PM (#21828163)
That's fine under the EU cookie law, no popup for permission required.
Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by cortesoft on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @07:22PM (#21830910)
I know. I was just replying to the commenter who said "no one wants cookies"
Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by saagarjha on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @07:26PM (#21830936)
That would be me. I was using cookies in the context of "cookies that cause popups to appear", because the other kind of cookies are useful and don't annoy people.
Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by lostlogin on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @02:12PM (#21828183)
Couldn’t that happen from your side?
Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by scarmig on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @02:44PM (#21828540)
Indeed! Someone should make a browser API that lets services direct the user agent to set domain-scoped key value pairs that are passed back to the service on subsequent requests. That would let the client automatically prove that they're authenticated while maintaining the server-side statelessness.
Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by cortesoft on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @07:24PM (#21830919)
That sounds like the old Unix 'magic cookies'.. maybe we should call the things 'cookies'!
Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by coldtea on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @02:31PM (#21828392)
Obviously no. What it would make it different than another user accessing the same account then?
Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by bdamm on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @02:28PM (#21828363)
HTTP is stateless so, no.
Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by pmarreck on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @02:37PM (#21828449)
Cookies save me from having to log into every site every time I want to use a service. That is more important to me than not allowing cookies due to some conspiracy-theorist reason.

What I might not want is cookies from OTHER sites like Google being set and/or accessed by non-Google sites. But having worked at web startups, I know firsthand how important google analytics were, so I don’t know.

Re:Undocumented Catalina file access change by ratww on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @04:22PM (#21829627)
> Cookies save me from having to log into every site every time I want to use a service

GDPR allows that, and you don't need consent, only disclosure, and you don't need an ugly cookie-bar.