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Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by qaq on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @10:46AM (#21814645)
Security team members modifying their tools that are deployed to a large number of employees for fun ?
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by nonbirithm on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @11:32AM (#21815213)
Only sort of related, but one time some of the YouTube engineering team made a code change to kill off usage of Internet Explorer 6 by bypassing the usual code screening process to circumvent management. Their boss reprimanded them but eventually got in on it, without going through the appropriate channels. Then the Docs team saw the banner they showed YouTube users, thought they had actually received approval from management and used it as evidence to convince their managers to implement their own banner (who would have normally refused).

All they received was a small rebuke. In fact, management praised the team for the end result of decimating IE6 usage, as intended.

Then one of the architects of the scheme blogged about it in retrospect years later.

https://blog.chriszacharias.com/a-conspiracy-to-kill-ie6

Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by qaq on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @11:44AM (#21815353)
There is a reason I am specifically talking about security team members.
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by JimDabell on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:33PM (#21816044)
They got lucky with positive press before they were discovered. The article you link to notes:

> If this went at all wrong, a number of us would surely be fired.

Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by username90 on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @11:33AM (#21815217)
It was a configuration change so there were no dangers adding it, so she being a security engineer isn't relevant. The right punishment would be to tell her what channels she can use to send union messages and tell her to just do security related popups in the future. If she continued sending messages like this then fire her, but it is dumb that she got fired over something that would take literally 5 minutes to fix.
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by quotemstr on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @11:44AM (#21815355)
Configuration is code. Many an outage has been caused by a bad configuration push.
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by username90 on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @11:50AM (#21815432)
Configuration which consists of an url and a message to display on said url is not that kind of configuration push.
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by qaq on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @11:47AM (#21815392)
It's extremely relevant I will reiterate I know literally 0 large companies where this would be tolerated from a security team member.
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by username90 on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @11:53AM (#21815473)
Google did tolerate exactly the same kind of behavior from the internal OS distribution team before, you could argue that security is even more important there than in a browser plugin.
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by qaq on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:04PM (#21815638)
I am not a Googler but I reiterate I know exactly 0 CSOs that would tolerate this. You providing an example outside of security team kindah reinforces my point.
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by username90 on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:18PM (#21815812)
The internal OS distribution team is a security team. They ensure that the OS everyone at Google works on and run their code on is secure.
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by qaq on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:34PM (#21816068)
They report to CSO ? Would be pretty unusual again not a googler but normally that would not be part of security team
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by username90 on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:46PM (#21816246)
Google has a lot of security teams since they do all of their infra themselves. The people who push security patches to peoples OS's is a security team, and they used that channel to push a message similar to this.
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by SiempreViernes on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @11:06AM (#21814878)
Part of the job was writing precisely that sort of pop-ups.
Re:Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers o... by Eikon on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @11:32AM (#21815204)
No, part of the job was to write pop-ups related to _security_ not to random things.

This was absolutely off limits.