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Re:United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year... by rayiner on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:24AM (#21810899)
Blaming the NRA is popular, but people leave out that the academic tide turned against the 1960s view as well: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/us/06firearms.html

> There used to be an almost complete scholarly and judicial consensus that the Second Amendment protects only a collective right of the states to maintain militias. That consensus no longer exists — thanks largely to the work over the last 20 years of several leading liberal law professors, who have come to embrace the view that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to own guns. See also: http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/common.htm.

If you look at what the Framers contemporaneously wrote about guns and the militia, it’s almost impossible to deny that the purpose of the second amendment is to ensure that able-bodied men would have access to fire arms in order to form militias, to not only combat foreign enemies but potentially domestic ones. Any sort of gun control that undermines that purpose cannot be squared with the second amendment, and we are slowly but surely rediscovering that understanding.

Re:United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year... by melling on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:28AM (#21810915)
There’s more in the Atlantic version of the article:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/john-paul-...

“ Colonial history contains many examples of firearm regulations in urban areas that imposed obstacles to their use for protection of the home. Boston, Philadelphia, and New York—the three largest cities in America at that time—all imposed restrictions on the firing of guns in the city limits. Boston enacted a law in 1746 prohibiting the “discharge” of any gun or pistol that was later revived in 1778; ”

“ Boston’s gunpowder law imposed a 10-pound fine on any person who took any loaded firearm into any dwelling house or barn within the town. Most, if not all, of those regulations would violate the Second Amendment as it was construed in the 5–4 decision that Justice Antonin Scalia ”

During colonial times we did not have a large standing army and relied on state militias.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/on-this-day-congress-off...

Re:United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year... by Turing_Machine on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @01:20AM (#21811154)
> Colonial history contains many examples of firearm regulations in urban areas that imposed obstacles to their use for protection of the home.

None of the Bill of Rights applied to the states until the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868, after which it was held to be "incorporated to the states". State and local laws from the colonial period are not relevant.

During the same period, several states had established churches, but I see no one arguing that the First Amendment still permits that.

Re:United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year... by melling on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @01:30AM (#21811200)
It’s surprising that Justice Stevens didn’t understand that when he wrote it in May of this year.

Is it possible that he did and you’re missing something?

Re:United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year... by Turing_Machine on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @04:02PM (#21880445)
Justice Stevens is the outlier here. The majority of the court agrees with me, not him.
Re:United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year... by Jamwinner on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @03:40AM (#21811803)
We still have laws against firing guns in the city. Posessing is a different manner.