> The flagship models like Pixel usually have the best ongoing support.

When was the last time you checked on this? As far as I can see, LineageOS support is pretty much restricted to phones that have had it for years. There is no hope if you have a recent phone. There's also no hope if you have an old phone, unless it's already supported.

For example, the most recent Pixel with support is... the Pixel. The original.

Lineage depends on the community to issue device specific builds. For instance, my dual sim traveling phone has no official Lineage support, but is well supported through the community (and indeed, everything works quite well).

I do wish Lineage had a way to promote and adopt community versions more officially.

> I do wish Lineage had a way to promote and adopt community versions more officially.

They do. That's what official support is. https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/

But they're a dead project.

Last change 4 minutes ago: https://review.lineageos.org/q/status:open

Looks quite alive to me.

An active project that supports no hardware is still a dead project. If you want to run LineageOS, that's not a realistic goal. It's a pipe dream.

I run LineageOS on my phone. I specifically bought the phone to run LineageOS on it. It's only a pipe dream if you want to take any random phone and change the operating system.

Can't have "official" support unless everything is working. "Promoting" beta-level code would be a disaster.

The release model that LineageOS inherited from CyanogenMod included three branches of varying levels of stability. The philosophy that if it isn't already finished, there's no point starting is the problem with LineageOS today.

> There is no hope if you have a recent phone.

OnePlus 6, 6T, 7 Pro - these are not "old" devices. Granted, you might argue that OnePlus doesn't count, lol.

This has been my experience, and I feel like I've been lookding pretty hard. I'd really like to see this problem get solved.

You really can't. Devices get dropped often and kernels are left at old versions with security bugs unpatched. There's nothing in Android that's like a proper Linux distribution that keeps working for decades on the same hardware with full kernel updates.

Are there any flagship models that still have phone jack and an sdcard?

Supposedly there's so many Android phones but all are removing things. You can get phones with these, but then their support doesn't last long and generally no one cares about maintaining a replacement OS like Lineage OS.

My ideal phone would have:

- size that does fit in a hand

- phone jack

- sdcard

- hardware keyboard

- ir blaster

- stereo speakers that actually face the user

- work with frequencies of my cell provider

- easy to root

- good battery life

- easy to open and fix

- recent hardware (I rarely play games but want it to be responsive)

But since then I started giving up on some features though those 3 are still important to me.

It's impossible to find one that has all of those things now, the only phones that I owned and really like and were very close to ideal were Motorola Droid 1, and HTC One M8 and it feels like it only goes downhill.

The ir blaster would be nice, but personally I'm more interested in wireless charging (and having nfc in a us device that _isn't_ flagship... Why is it always only available in eu versions...)

Hardware keyboard isn't something I need personally, but it would certainly be useful; At least add a T9 keyboard, it shouldn't be hard to adapt autocorrect for that.

Good battery life isn't enough: I'd rather have a battery that's twice the size (6-7Ah). This makes it 5mm thicker and 5mm thicker? That's fine with me.

Not everyone cares about the camera on their phone. Dedicated cameras are still a thing, and cheap ones still work better than your expensive smartphone. Being able to read QR and bar codes is enough for me.

And to get it off my chest: give me back my buttons. I want hardware buttons on the side. Give me a home button (I don't care how big the bezel is) and instead of having an assistant button, add a pair of customizable buttons to the side of the screen (scroll for browsers and ebooks, skip/seek media, browser history, launch an app, etc). The best thing about desktop/laptop is being able to set hotkeys

And as someone who likes using tablets, please make your tablets support cases/covers that don't require a clamshell. The Nvidia shield tablet (at least) has magnetic notches in the side, which match up to magnetic tabs on the side of the cover, allowing it to be attached/removed easily. Clamshells are annoying.

Asus 2018+

Idk about rooting tho. That's a maybe. If I could throw down 500$+ I'd be able to find out.

My LG v20 was purchased the week it came out cause I'm an audiophile. This thing is literally bullet proof and 100$ now. Best phone I've ever owned. Still using it. Rooted n debloated stock ROMs are all I'm interested in all the custom ones never get updates correctly.

fxtec Pro 1 hits a most of those, exceptions are no IR blaster, battery life (depends on what you call good) and apparently it's a pain to register with Verizon (mentioning since I don't know who your provider is).

I have a pre-order, but right now I'd give it a few months while they sort out production, they seem to be hitting a lot of issues with quality of components which means orders are delayed.

Oh wow, this looks sweet at least at first sight. Don't use Verizon and IR Blaster is cool but not an absolute must (it worked really well with now discontinued HTC app that combined TV Guide with IR blaster, you clicked on a show and it switched your TV to it).

I ordered a cheap Android phone the other day because installing a non-OEM OS like Lineage mean... banking software doesn't work. I have an older phone but the last stock ROM on it is Android 5, although it is currently running Lineage with Android 9. So I bought that phone to keep at stock and have a phone I can do my banking with.

Come to think of it, I should just switch banks!

Magisk[1] works with Lineage and might be able to fool your annoying banking app.

1: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk...

Don't use Magisk, but it allowed me to fool all apps that I'm aware of.

I really don't understand this mentality (doing it with a bank app, I also had it with OTP app), because I have full control over my phone that somehow makes it compromised?

What's next? I no longer will have access to my bank account because I'm less trustworthy?

Good job they don't let you access your bank account via a website if you're an admin user on a PC!

Oh wait, they do...

Honestly, I don't understand the mentality either. Admittedly the phone is more portable than a laptop, but the chances of stealing a laptop and gaining access to any cached banking credentials on it is identical to a phone, surely?

You can side-load firefox and just use the bank's mobile site.

Side loading is unnecessary. Firefox is available on both the play store and Fdroid (not sure if it's in the default Fdroid repo, but I know there's at least one third party repo with official builds)

The app has features using the camera though, and can act as a 2FA for desktop logins, otherwise I'd need my card and a card reader with a PIN pad to input the challenge given during the login process.

The Magisk recommendation should work, but you should put pressure on your bank to stop doing it.

Really? There's been no support for the pixel since the first one. It sucks, I'd love to run lineage on my pixel 2.

Honest question, what use would Lineage be on a pixel? I've used it a few times for older phones, but that was mainly to get rid of a bunch of the stupid restrictions and bloatware those phones had. Pixel phones seem like they wouldn't benefit too much from it. (Again I haven't looked into it in a while so I'm not sure of the benefits)