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Re:Frail Older Patients Struggle After Even Minor Operations by Ididntdothis on Monday December 16, 2019 @01:16AM (#21801129)
"Hospital has over $4 million dollars worth of art on the walls and a $500k koi pond in the lobby."

That's one thing I ave noticed in a lot of US hospitals and doctor offices. Everything is very shiny and new and costs a lot of money.

Re:Frail Older Patients Struggle After Even Minor Operations by vkou on Monday December 16, 2019 @05:23AM (#21802075)
It's the invisible hand of the market at work. Obviously, patients are preferring to pay premium for treatment hospitals with expensive art and swanky facilities.
Re:Frail Older Patients Struggle After Even Minor Operations by Ididntdothis on Monday December 16, 2019 @08:46AM (#21802923)
I wonder if they preferred it less if they had a way to find out how much the hospital costs before treatment.
Re:Frail Older Patients Struggle After Even Minor Operations by kube-system on Monday December 16, 2019 @10:28AM (#21803693)
That would make sense, at least for the people paying the costs themselves.

The economics change with insurance coverage. Once I hit my deductible, why do I care how expensive it is? At that point, might as well get my money’s worth out of my insurance company.

The last time I need non-routine care, the only thing I cared about was:

1. Is this doctor good?

2. Is this doctor/hospital in-network?

Re:Frail Older Patients Struggle After Even Minor Operations by RugnirViking on Monday December 16, 2019 @01:58PM (#21805903)
"The economics change with insurance coverage. Once I hit my deductible, why do I care how expensive it is? At that point, might as well get my money’s worth out of my insurance company"

The money doesn't come from nowhere. If everybody thinks like this, your insurance costs more money.

If you don't pay for your insurance personally, how about just straight up being paid more by your company?

Re:Frail Older Patients Struggle After Even Minor Operations by kube-system on Monday December 16, 2019 @04:17PM (#21807297)
Many people do think like that, and it is likely a significant contributing factor to the cost of health insurance.

I do pay for my insurance personally. Health insurance law is somewhat different than most other forms of insurance in that the premium cannot be increased no matter my frequency or magnitude of previous claims. [0]

My marginal use is a merely a rounding error in the context of my health insurer's outlays. Nothing I could do would personally affect my rate. The aggregate of many thousands of people's use determines my rate, and for that, the tragedy of the commons is fully in charge.

[0]: https://www.healthcare.gov/how-plans-set-your-premiums/

Re:Frail Older Patients Struggle After Even Minor Operations by simonh on Monday December 16, 2019 @08:25AM (#21802825)
The basic concept of a commercial insurance based health system is that people basically pay for their own treatment. Thus wealthy people pay top dollar and get first class treatment at world beating institutions, while over 20 million Americans have no health cover whatsoever, and many of those on cheaper plans that can't afford lawyers get cheated out of crucial treatment.
Re:Frail Older Patients Struggle After Even Minor Operations by dsfyu404ed on Monday December 16, 2019 @06:55AM (#21802417)
When you can't make a profit on paper you have to piss that money away. Executive salaries and fancy pants facilities that the well to do like looking at are the typical ways of doing this.