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Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by nindalf on Sunday December 15, 2019 @12:29PM (#21797453)
Man why you gotta do Firefox dirty like that?

Firefox is absolutely the best browser IMO. Unlike Eclipse, which is acceptable but doesn’t hold a candle to JetBrains.

Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by masklinn on Sunday December 15, 2019 @12:57PM (#21797670)
> Unlike Eclipse, which is acceptable

That's a nice way of saying it's a trash fire.

Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by thawaway1837 on Sunday December 15, 2019 @03:10PM (#21798652)
What happened to Eclipse?

I remember there was a time when IBM really invested in it that it was miles better than anything in the Java editing space, or honestly any competitor at the time. For example, instantaneous compiling and error checking was so far ahead it took MS many years to catch up with it.

It used to be a matter of huge excitement when a new language or framework was supported by Eclipse.

But I moved away from Eclipse for a few years (I wasn’t programming then) and I’m back and suddenly it’s absolute terrible. Not just worse than browsers of the time, but possibly worse than what it was when I last used it.

Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by zmmmmm on Sunday December 15, 2019 @07:32PM (#21799962)
Not sure what you're experiencing but I use Eclipse daily and I can't see anything remotely like what you're describing. It's clunky and sometimes slow (esp. if you run it with default memory - ALWAYS increase the memory). But it works just fine for me.
Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by dmitryminkovsky on Sunday December 15, 2019 @05:02PM (#21799284)
Really? Is it that bad? I haven’t tried it in a long time but I imagined that if I opened it up it would be pretty good. Got to try it now.
Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by tolle on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @06:08AM (#21812477)
IBM getting involved in something is usually a death sentence. Initially they might inspire hope. But they'll turn everything into a horrible mess lacking those polishing touches that makes stuff nice to work with. They'll tick feature check-boxes. But the stuff will barely be usable.
Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by aedron on Monday December 16, 2019 @06:40AM (#21802365)
Funny, the two things you mention (instantaneous compiling and error checking) are still better in Eclipse.
Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by wolco on Sunday December 15, 2019 @01:18PM (#21797816)
Eclipse is gimp Jetbrains is photoshop.
Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by sam_lowry_ on Sunday December 15, 2019 @03:24PM (#21798736)
Photoshop is much less free/open than Jetbrains products are.
Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by wolco on Sunday December 15, 2019 @03:34PM (#21798797)
You may like them more for a variety of reasons but how is photoshop less free/open than Jetbrains products. Both are commericial products that require a licease and both are on the subscription model after selling unlimited liceases for years.
Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by sam_lowry_ on Sunday December 15, 2019 @05:47PM (#21799514)
IDEA CE is opensource, many plugins are opensource as well.
Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by AsyncAwait on Sunday December 15, 2019 @06:00PM (#21799578)
> Both are commericial products that require a licease

There are community versions of some of their IDEs, which are fully FLOSS, unlike Photoshop.

Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by dmitryminkovsky on Sunday December 15, 2019 @01:13PM (#21797792)
I thought Eclipse was pretty good... obviously not a 1-to-1 comparison...
Re:JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised by Gene_Parmesan on Monday December 16, 2019 @08:29PM (#21809593)
Mozilla has made a commitment to privacy into its products' main differentiator, and I am 100% okay with that. The fact that FF ships with its Facebook container system turned on by default, and that it just works, is probably my favorite browser feature in quite some time.