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Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by mrob on Sunday December 15, 2019 @12:21PM (#21797395)
And we should ban prosthetic limbs because amputees might use them to smuggle drugs.

Emotion-detection tech is a prosthetic for autistic people, and if it's banned I want consistent treatment for all disabilities.

Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by dbsmith83 on Sunday December 15, 2019 @12:25PM (#21797426)
Give me a break. People don't use prosthetic limbs as a tool to decide if someone is lying to the police or if they should get the job. Your analogy is less than adequate.
Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by dang on Sunday December 15, 2019 @02:49PM (#21798500)
Can you please edit swipes like "Give me a break" out of your posts to HN? Your comment would be fine with just the other two sentences.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by shadowprofile77 on Sunday December 15, 2019 @05:44PM (#21799494)
Seriously? What pedantic nonsense. It's a minor, hardly offensive phrase designed to add some emotional color to comments. We're not robots here. Many people write comments with expletives (and don't get downvoted) along with all sorts of things, but you fixate here on "give me a break".
Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by dang on Sunday December 15, 2019 @06:15PM (#21799651)
I understand how this can seem pedantic, but when people lead with swipes like that, it subtly cues the discussion towards disrespect and even aggression. Maybe they don't land that way with you, but the spectrum of the audience here is pretty broad, and it's best to just omit things that predictably activate major subsets. Given that such remarks are cheap and mechanical, adding no information, it improves the signal/noise ratio to take them out anyhow. To me it seems clear how much better the GP comment reads without the first bit—how much more visible the actual point becomes.

Emotional color is welcome in HN comments, but reflexive indignation is a different thing. For the sake of the commons here, we all need to work on containing the petty anger that flares up instantly and is all too easy to vent onto the internet.

Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by detaro on Sunday December 15, 2019 @02:51PM (#21798510)
> Emotion-detection tech is a prosthetic for autistic people

Never heard of it being used that way. Not sure how current tools would work for that. Examples?

Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by mrob on Sunday December 15, 2019 @03:26PM (#21798753)
AFAIK it is not yet used this way in practice, but I see no reason it couldn't be integrated into AR glasses. This would allow autistic people to interact socially on an equal footing with neurotypical people.
Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by conistonwater on Sunday December 15, 2019 @08:06PM (#21800108)
This sounds like a misunderstanding of the problems faced by autistic people.
Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by mrob on Sunday December 15, 2019 @10:36PM (#21800626)
Difficulty "reading" emotions is an common and medically accepted symptom of autism spectrum disorders, and there is objectively measured evidence that it is in fact a real symptom. See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15843104

This presents a serious problem to people with such disorders, because they may accidentally make people hate them by failing to understand their emotional state. If AR glasses could continually run face detection and emotion detection algorithms, they could be configured to show a warning if a conversation partner is showing signs of boredom or annoyance. Neurotypical people do this subconsciously, so it is a matter of fairness that people without the ability be allowed to use prosthetics.

Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by krageon on Monday December 16, 2019 @06:57AM (#21802421)
The idea that people that have autism need to be assisted to be more like neurotypical people (for example by augmenting their ability to perceive emotions) is in a very real sense part of the problem of the treatment that they tend to face. I don't think it's a great idea to take as a given that this is necessary or even desirable.
Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by mrob on Monday December 16, 2019 @09:02AM (#21803009)
What's your plan for changing human nature? Non-verbal communication of emotion is so important to human communication in general that it seems highly unlikely that any training scheme will overcome the dislike neurotypicals typically feel for communicating with people who fail at this ability. I think the concept of "uncanny valley" is relevant here, which is widely believed to be real by neurotypical people. Something which looks human but does not act as expected of something with human appearance supposedly produces instinctive feelings of revulsion in neurotypical people.

The only realistic option for low-risk in-person social interaction between autistic and neurotypical people who do not know each other well enough to predict emotional responses without needing to rely on real-time decoding of non-verbal communication (which is a learnable skill, but try having a conversation about an unrelated subject while busy programming to understand what it's like) is emotion-detecting AR glasses. The alternative is segregation, and lacking AR glasses, many autistic people do self-segregate.

Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by krageon on Monday December 16, 2019 @09:56AM (#21803401)
In my experience it's very disturbing in the beginning (I have a very easy time getting annoyed, so it annoyed me), but it is very possible to overcome that with some patience. When you have the tools in your toolbox to do so, it falls on you to be more tolerant to other people. It expands to much more than just interacting with people who have autism, it is a good recipe to interact with anyone different than you.

Thus, I don't think I need a plan to change human nature. Collectively, we just need to grow up a little.

Re:Emotion-detecting tech should be restricted by law by zepto on Sunday December 15, 2019 @12:23PM (#21797407)
Make it prescription only.