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Re:Why Nukemap Isn't on Google Maps Anymore by angry_octet on Friday December 13, 2019 @09:29PM (#21787391)
I really can understand how you have gotten to such a bad place with packaging. What are you doing that needs lots of PPAs?!

Snaps are actually a great security and packaging advance that decouples package dependencies from a common library set, while maintaining a mechanism to patch and upgrade otherwise dangling library deps. It also starts down the long road to confining software, because what you run shouldn't automatically assume all your privs. Basically iOS style apps for Linux.

People who pipe web content to a privileged shell are on their own at present. Arguably they should be warned, but that assumes taint tracking at every level of the operating system, and no production OS has that. If the software is a dependency shit show then putting it in docker (and then into a VM) is a better compromise.

Windows is already deprecating the installer model for the app store and cloud concept, they just didn't make it stick the first time round.

Re:Why Nukemap Isn't on Google Maps Anymore by di4na on Saturday December 14, 2019 @02:10AM (#21788241)
Snaps have been the single provider of crash, breaking the machine or killing ny battery i have ever seen on linux. It is to the point that if all i can find is a snap, i prefer to boot windows to deal with it.

Snaps are a good idea in theory but do not work in practice.

Re:Why Nukemap Isn't on Google Maps Anymore by angry_octet on Saturday December 14, 2019 @09:30AM (#21789650)
Well, I'm surprised. Snaps have really simplified things from my perspective. Any you'd like to call out? Particularly they shouldn't be able to 'break the machine'.
Re:Why Nukemap Isn't on Google Maps Anymore by di4na on Sunday December 15, 2019 @03:13AM (#21795108)
I have had multiple time uninstalling a snap that installed its own X stack. And discover that it had been swapped for the whole OS to use this one.

No more graphical stack.

This happened to me with not only X. It seems to me that installing is tested. Removing is not. It was also badly documented last time i checked.

Happened with discord last time.

Re:Why Nukemap Isn't on Google Maps Anymore by angry_octet on Monday December 16, 2019 @11:08AM (#21804059)
Okay that is seriously bad. Looking at https://github.com/snapcrafters/discord/issues they have several unresolved issues like that, seems this is unmaintained.

Ubuntu needs to more clearly explain whether the app is confined, and force apps to use an API to change the system environment to allow rollback, multiple packages of the same function etc.