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Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by xchaotic on Friday December 13, 2019 @12:52AM (#21779411)
This has bigger and impact on startup ecosystem worldwide than say a new framework etc but no one is discussing this. I wonder if people gave up on the idea that tech can help make informed decisions ? It looks like people voted off their emotions and based on what they would like to happen (UK being a sovereign empire again) and not based on what is realistic- a bunch of trade deals that are worse off than being in the EU
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by vanniv on Friday December 13, 2019 @12:55AM (#21779424)
It seems these days like every time someone sees an election that doesn't go their way, they assume that the voters on the other side were clearly all imbeciles voting for their own destruction.

That's an incredibly naive and narcissistic view of the world.

Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by happymellon on Friday December 13, 2019 @01:19AM (#21779512)
What would be the pros to Brexit?
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by thu2111 on Friday December 13, 2019 @05:33AM (#21780534)
Power being more local and closer to the people. This is the fundamental advantage from which all others flow.

The EU is a highly centralising project. In many ways it's more centralising than the US federal government is, because the USA has a constitutional balance of powers (in theory) and has a tradition of state's rights. EU ideology recognises neither: there is no limit to the extent to which EU federalists wish to centralise power in Brussels. Some of them have talked about reducing national parliaments to the status of tourist attractions.

It's funny - usually the Hacker News set is excited about decentralisation, peer to peer networks, end to end encryption, and all other projects that give people control over their own digital lives. But when the British vote for more control over their lives, outside of the internet context, suddenly it's all obvious stupidity and can't ever be better than being controlled by a foreign power.

If you can't see any cons to the EU, you shouldn't be able to see any cons to Google completely controlling the internet. After all, it's rather convenient in many ways to have them do so: all very consistent, one passport for every website etc.

Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by scarmig on Friday December 13, 2019 @01:27PM (#21784030)
> Some of them have talked about reducing national parliaments to the status of tourist attractions.

Cite?

Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by smitty1e on Friday December 13, 2019 @03:50AM (#21780102)
Stand by for a smashing Anglosphere trade deal.
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by s9w on Friday December 13, 2019 @01:23AM (#21779532)
not being in the EU
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by happymellon on Friday December 13, 2019 @02:58AM (#21779888)
But what would be the pro?
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by nodex-alex on Friday December 13, 2019 @04:58AM (#21780385)
Apart from not being part of the beurocracsy, corruption and propping up a failed experiment alongside Germany and France?
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by happymellon on Friday December 13, 2019 @03:03PM (#21784871)
Ah, okay that makes sense. I hadn't heard of any corruption in the EU, do you have examples?
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by nicky0 on Friday December 13, 2019 @02:59AM (#21779895)
Moving to a more positive relationship with Europe.
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by happymellon on Friday December 13, 2019 @03:20AM (#21779971)
What do you mean by this? How would Brexit make the relationship positive, because the UK doesn't want the same things as the EU so they won't be in conflict?
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by nicky0 on Friday December 13, 2019 @03:52AM (#21780110)
The UK has always been a reluctant partner holding back EU ambitions of ever closer union. The EU will now be much freer to pursue federalism. The UK will now be a friend and partner, but no longer in the dysfunctional relationship.

It's like how divorced couples can often have a more positive relationship after the divorce than during the unhappy marriage.

Not as close a relationship, but a more healthy one.

Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by kolleykibber on Friday December 13, 2019 @06:03AM (#21780651)
But surely this can happen? It's clear social media marketing teams were used to go after the uneducated with slurs and memes in order to benefit the rich.
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by scarmig on Friday December 13, 2019 @01:00AM (#21779438)
I'm tired of this radical subjectivism anytime people vote for something stupid. Sometimes people cut off their nose to spite their face. Reading convoluted reasoning about how it was really actually rational from their perspective because reasons and values never adds anything, either.
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by thu2111 on Friday December 13, 2019 @05:27AM (#21780516)
That's a very convoluted way to say you aren't interested in debate or having an open mind. So be it.
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by scarmig on Friday December 13, 2019 @01:23PM (#21783990)
The parent comment was condemning people for deigning to criticize sacred cows like Brexit. People are free to have stupid, wrong opinions, but they shouldn't whine when people point out they're stupid, wrong opinions.

Debate is great! But you really need a thicker skin and can't demand safe spaces to protect every intellectual vanity you hold.

Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by ananth22by7 on Friday December 13, 2019 @12:11PM (#21783357)
I really wish your comment wasn’t downvoted. I hear you.
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by rcarmo on Friday December 13, 2019 @03:13AM (#21779941)
Well, FWIW, there are a _lot_ of startups setting up offices in Portugal these days. Mostly as quasi-nearshoring, but many as a serious endeavor (CloudFlare is an example of the latter).
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by ggsp on Friday December 13, 2019 @12:55AM (#21779423)
What do you reckon the impact on the international and national startup ecosystems will be?
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by Luc on Friday December 13, 2019 @03:30AM (#21780013)
Startups are cheap for a government to support. I expect the Conservative government will make the UK even more attractive as a location to start a business in an attempt to counter Brexit's negative effects.
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by nicky0 on Friday December 13, 2019 @02:53AM (#21779873)
Voting Conservartive in this election was very much an informed choice for many. The alternative was voting in a marxist.
Re:Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament by Luc on Friday December 13, 2019 @03:31AM (#21780018)
The real alternative was a coalition government, surely?