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Re:If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used ... by colejohnson66 on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:37AM (#21773367)
Wow. I can’t imagine hating someone simply because of who they work with.

Is everyone working at BP complicit with the Gulf oil spill? Is everyone working at PG&E responsible for the fires? No. That’s absurd.

Anyways, I’m not a mod, but I did flag your comment because you’re breaking two site rules:

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine.

> When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

Re:If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used ... by cowpig on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:40AM (#21773407)
Telling someone that what they do for a living makes the world a worse place is neither a personal insult nor hating.

Social pressure is one of the principal ways we stop people from making self-interested decisions that are detrimental to the group.

Re:If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used ... by colejohnson66 on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:41AM (#21773423)
It is an insult because you’re attacking them for what they do.
Re:If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used ... by cowpig on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:53AM (#21773552)
If that's how you want to define "insult," then I disagree that we shouldn't do it.

You shouldn't attack people for who they are, or anything outside of their control (race, gender, etc)

But for choices they make, that affect other people? These are exactly the things you should judge people for

Re:If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used ... by riversflow on Thursday December 12, 2019 @06:07PM (#21777601)
I don’t follow this logic, at all, and I’m honestly trying to understand it, even if I disagree.

How is attacking someone for what they do an insult?

Is there an ethical line?

If someone kills my family, certainly I am not insulting them for calling them a murder?

Re:If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used ... by heavyset_go on Thursday December 12, 2019 @08:16PM (#21778273)
Anyone can be judged for the actions they take, that doesn't make it an insult.
Re:If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used ... by Nextgrid on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:54AM (#21773560)
The BP and PG&E cases were accidents. There might've been negligence but it still wasn't in their best interests to cause those accidents, and now that they happened they've got the opportunity to learn from it and hopefully not do this in the future.

The Facebook case is different. Them stalking people isn't an accident, it's the whole purpose of the company and what pays their bills. Despite seeing the negative effects of their behaviour on society and being given countless opportunities to learn and become less nasty they are continuing as if nothing happened.

Re:If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used ... by kick on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:46AM (#21773464)
Is everyone working at BP complicit with the Gulf oil spill?

Anyone with an option to work elsewhere, yes, though keep in mind, there's a difference between "Working at Facebook" and "Working on Surveillance Dragnet at Facebook."

Workers have power, and workers at Facebook have a lot of power. It's not like they can't get a job elsewhere. That they haven't quit, or unionized and forced Facebook to stop the, frankly, evil things they're doing, is a mark against their moral character.

Working on ad systems actively makes the world worse, and hating a person for working on something that actively makes the world worse will always be reasonable (and justifiable).