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Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by jelliclesfarm on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:12PM (#21768970)
Why isn’t this a great accomplishment? People don’t have to be long haul truck drivers or be alert the whole time..

Even if it entirely eliminates human beings, it means the person who’d be driving the truck will be able to do better paying or other fulfilling tasks. Who knows...study or become an artist or spend more time with children etc.

I also don’t see how migrant workers are being exploited? How is anyone exploited if they are not driving long haul truck routes?

Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by deeblering4 on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:25PM (#21769025)
I take it you are not a trucker who is providing for a family. Think about not only losing your job but losing your entire industry.
Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by nwallin on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:41PM (#21769089)
A bar friend of mine is currently a truck driver. He's going to school to learn to be a network engineer.

Retraining is a really important part of our modern reality. The idea that we can simply turn off the tap of advancing technology so that the hardest working, lowest paid workers can continue to toil for peanuts is super shitty. There are some incredibly intelligent people who stumbled in their development who really deserve a second chance at jobs that aren't ass.

Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by jelliclesfarm on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:32PM (#21769058)
Are you a trucker?

Once upon a time, horse drawn carriages transported people and there were stables and groomsmen and carriage drivers and those who provided food and board for the horses. That entire industry and those jobs disappeared when the motor cars came along. They found other jobs. We moved on.

Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by crtlaltdel on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:47PM (#21769109)
^ this is a great comment, and speaks to the reality. as cars came to prominence a whole host of supporting industry developed, creating jobs. it seems like some of those jobs required more technical training than the jobs they replaced.
Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by deeblering4 on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:53PM (#21769141)
Yeah, and once dinosaurs roamed the earth. It’s easy to make generalizations about the merits of moving on when you aren’t being left behind.
Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by jelliclesfarm on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @11:46PM (#21769336)
Yes. This is true..what you say. But the world keeps turning. C’est la vie etc.
Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by bsder on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:18PM (#21768997)
> I also don’t see how migrant workers are being exploited? How is anyone exploited if they are not driving long haul truck routes?

Because you are making it cheaper to transport from California agribusinesses who are known for violating labor laws to Pennsylvania who is known for enforcing labor laws.

This is in opposition to local manufacturing which becomes more economically feasible the more transport costs.

Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by jelliclesfarm on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:27PM (#21769031)
Can you share your source for the above statements re ca agribusinesses violating labor laws etc. Thanks.
Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by bsder on Thursday December 12, 2019 @03:22AM (#21770250)
Okay, I'll play along even though the most cursory Google search has tons of hits:

"Verify: Are half of California farmworkers undocumented?" https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/verify/verify-are-h...

Deporting illegal workers is causing farm workers to finally be above minimum wage: "Wages rise on California farms. Americans still don’t want the job" https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farms-immigration/

I chose those two articles because they are quite a bit more "pro-immigration" than others and most likely to blunt the knee-jerk "Yer a raciiiiist!" idiots.

The real problem is that rather than deporting all these people we should be hitting the agribusinesses with gigantic fines and jail time for exploiting them in the first place. If some CEOs wound up in jail for employing undocumented workers and not paying minimum wage instead of just getting a slap on the wrist, this problem would self-correct.