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Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by chaps on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @05:00PM (#21767228)
As part of some volunteer work I'm doing with Lucy Parsons Labs, I submitted a FOIA request to every single state's largest city, asking for search warrant records that would likely exist on complaints for search warrants, the warrants themselves, or from any audit. About 100 requests in total.

After two months, only two cities have sent me their search warrant records. All other states have given me rejections saying:

1. The records are on paper and never transcribed.

2. The records are digital, but there's no way to query from a frontend.

3. The records are digital and queryable, but the agency considers the use of queries "creating reports", where tons of states have case law backing this up.

4. Nothing, because they haven't responded yet.

So far I've received three enormous fee estimations of ~500k, ~400k and ~150k. Obviously not affordable.

Chicago is one of the few cities that sent records (though, it took a year). They've sent three separately sized files for the same timeframe - 11k rows, 9k rows, and 20k rows. The data is messy, and there is some very important info missing from their records. Can't speak too much about it yet, since I'm still confirming the reasons. It's been blindingly frustrating trying to get a consistent message about whether the data is even accurate.

All this goes to show that police agencies don't make records on search warrants even remotely easily available to the public, and we have no way of gauging whether our constitutional rights are being upheld throughout the US. It's honestly very sad.

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Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by hanniabu on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @06:32PM (#21767918)
Ahhh, good ol' government inefficiencies and obfuscation. I have no faith in there ever being efficient systems in place because it'll just make it harder to hide shady behavior.
Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by qrbLPHiKpiux on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @08:00PM (#21768424)
That’s how it’s been developed, continues, and planned. If it wasn’t, it wouldn’t be like this.
Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by lysp on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @07:14PM (#21768191)
There is a similar problem with FOI requests in Australia.

It's not there to get information, it's there to give the appearance that they give information.

The most used excuse here is it will take "too many resources".

They often follow the same set of steps to legally delay or prevent information going out.

There is a FOI ombudsman, but they are so swamped the backlog is enormous.

Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by mrandish on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @05:48PM (#21767621)
Thanks for sharing. Sounds like a useful project.

> don't make records on search warrants even remotely easily available to the public,

It seems like the right reform would be for all approved search warrants to be automatically posted online one year after issuance.

Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by jammygit on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @06:39PM (#21767964)
If an innocent person had a warrant issued for them, and they were cleared, I bet employers would still routinely query those records if they were able to. It could affect people’s lives if it was too public
Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by chaps on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @06:42PM (#21767980)
This is a non-issue within the context of these requests. The only names that I am requesting are the names of the officers and judges involved. The requests are not seeking any names of anyone the search warrants are meant for.
Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by vageli on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @09:55PM (#21768897)
> If an innocent person had a warrant issued for them, and they were cleared, I bet employers would still routinely query those records if they were able to. It could affect people’s lives if it was too public

I know it is unlawful to ask about arrests without convictions as a precursor to employment in at least a few jurisdictions in the US. [0]

[0]: https://www.workplacefairness.org/criminal-records-workplace...

Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by CobrastanJorji on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @07:41PM (#21768330)
I wonder, are court records generated by the issuing of warrants? If so, I imagine you could have gone at it from the other direction and simply gotten a list of warrants and looked for terms that looked stingray-ish. So maybe warrants aren't actually recorded in court records?
Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by vageli on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @09:52PM (#21768880)
> I wonder, are court records generated by the issuing of warrants? If so, I imagine you could have gone at it from the other direction and simply gotten a list of warrants and looked for terms that looked stingray-ish. So maybe warrants aren't actually recorded in court records?

That's probably the case as I believe warrants can be requested even when court is not on session. As someone who has sat in court a couple times I can say the only warrant I ever saw a judge issue was a bench warrant.

Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by jammygit on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @06:37PM (#21767955)
Thanks for your work
Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by Gaelan on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @08:02PM (#21768435)
Do you happen to have a city-by-city breakdown of the responses anywhere?
Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by chaps on Saturday December 14, 2019 @07:25PM (#21793446)
Nothing yet, but I hope to get something in the next couple weeks. Here are all of the requests, including their responses: https://www.muckrock.com/project/search-warrant-data-608/
Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by 4AoZqrH2fsk5UB on Thursday December 12, 2019 @08:41AM (#21771720)
Do you have a template for this? I'd like to submit such a request to my own city.
Re:ACLU sues Homeland Security over 'stingray' cell phone su... by chaps on Saturday December 14, 2019 @07:27PM (#21793457)
Yep, please check out the requests at: https://www.muckrock.com/project/search-warrant-data-608/

It'd be a good idea to limit the set of record points to only those that you're interested in.